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Don't fear for Miguel Cabrera's swing after the HR Derby

DETROIT - JULY 11: Miguel Cabrera #24 of the Detroit Tigers shows off his American League All Start Batting Practice Jersey prior o the start of the game against the Minnesota Twins on July 11 2010 at Comerica Park in Detroit Michigan.  (Photo by Leon Halip/Getty Images)

Miguel Cabrera will be in the Home Run Derby tonight. Ever since that bit of news was announced, folks have been worrying that he'll hurt his swing, cost himself a chance at the Triple Crown and kick the Tigers' chances of competing for the division title right in the shin.

Why? The examples come to mind quickly. Bobby Abreu. Josh Hamilton. Brandon Inge. They all went into the MLB Home Run Derby as skilled hitting machines and came out of it a shell of their former selves. The conclusion? The contest can take a sweet swing and destroy it faster than Chris Berman can say "Backbackback." 

That is the popular notion anyway.

i've never found it to be believable, however. Take a couple handfuls of baseball players who had very successful starts to the season, add a random point in the year and see if all of them do as well after that mark as they did before it. I'm going to bet you see a couple of players continue to hit well, a couple of them drop off and a few over several seasons completely flame out.

The HR Derby makes a nice excuse, and it even seems plausible when you think the activity of swinging for the fences a couple of dozen times.

I hadn't looked for or found any studies to shed more light on the subject, however.

Fortunately a pair of sources looked at the numbers today, and they back me up.

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The Snyder boys at Motor City Bengals did one of their own over the weekend. 

Five years worth of data compared against three years worth of career averages shows that the derby guys average .004 wOBA points higher after the break and the rate at which they hit home runs increases by just one percent.

(It) is interesting to point out that the data set shows that 23 players showed at least .001 wOBA point improvement over their three year career average, 1 showed zero difference, and 16 showed some decline.

 

Now two things could have made this a better study: expanding the number of years a bit farther, and taking a random sample of players from the MLB to compare it to. But just as a quick glance at reality, I think it was a nice busting of the myth. Could being a derby participant mess up a batter? Sure. It's possible. But on the whole you can say the derby doesn't mess up everyone who dares enter it.

The HardBall Times actually has a much deeper study, but it's not as easy to quickly digest as the one at MCB. But the conclusion is the same:

What we see is that the Home Run Derby participants and our control group have identical first-half home run rates and nearly identical second-half home run rates. They differed significantly in 2008 (Lance Berkman, Dan Uggla, Chase Utley, and Grady Sizemore all had steep declines), but that's the only real outlier here. On the whole, we again find that the Home Run Derby has no effect on a player's second half. And with more than 20,000 at-bats in each bucket, our sample size is pretty large.

So let's look at Cabrera specifically -- and again thanks go to the Snyders for doing this. He participated in the derby in 2006. His second half was nearly identical in the rate stats: .988 OPS on both sides of the All Star Break with a small uptick in slugging average driven by a higher batting average.

This season, whether or not he was a participant the statistics point toward a slow-down in his second half. He currently leads the major leagues in OPS (1.074) and batting average (.346). He's never finished a season above 1.000 OPS or .339 average before.

Fangraphs.com has a nice piece on derby contestants that finishes with this:

Six out of eight project to hit worse in the second half. Some of these guys have greatly exceeded their previously established level of performance. Even accounting for the spike in production ... they figure to regress somewhat when games resume Thursday. If (Corey) Hart doesn’t continue hitting bombs at a prodigious rate, it’s not because of some HR derby hex — it’s the product of regression to the mean.

I left the part in about Hart because he leads only Cabrera in their measure of a player overperforming.

Personally, I am not worried about Cabrera. And I'm glad Tigers fans have some rooting interest in the spectacle tonight.

Are you worried he'll mess himself up? I'm not.

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The biggest thing to remember, is that these guys take more swings during morning BP than they will at the Derby.

To think that a handful of swings will affect Cabby in the long run is just crazy talk.

MLB.com actually had a good post about him Friday, and showed how he goes through BP, and it is insane. The guy starts off driving liners to right center, then works his way to left center. At no point in BP does he try pulling balls down the line, he’s working to always line them to the deepest parts of the park. Only if he sees fans watching for BP does he really start to bomb the ball just to show off, and even then, it’s usually opposite field or left center, not down the lines.

So yeah, a guy who spends that kind of time working on his swing every day isn’t going to be affected by a handful on a warm July evening.

by Robocop on Jul 12, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that Inge's drop off started a bit before the All Star game

but Inge is a streaky hitter anyway, and always will be. Half seasons at .290 and half seasons below .190 are the norm for him. His second half is not attributable to the derby nor is it entirely attributable to his knees. He’s just streaky.

by Tigerdog1 on Jul 12, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Not entirely, but I would put more blame on his pre-bionic knees than the Derby.

by Robocop on Jul 12, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something was fishy

Before digging into the numbers, one of the “sniff tests” for me was Ken Griffey Jr. He participated in seven home run derbies in the prime of his career. He never would have put up the kind of numbers he did, or participate in as many derbies as he did, if it messed with his swing.

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by ZSnyder on Jul 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope he hits 50 bombs

and makes everyone scared to face us

by lionsfan22 on Jul 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like Cabrera will be batting 3rd tomorrow.

Ichiro, Jeter, Cabrera, Hamilton, Guerrero, Longoria, Mauer, Cano, Crawford

by rcpratt on Jul 12, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Inge

Funny you refer to Inge as a skilled hitting machine. HAHA

by BGWINGS on Jul 12, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

We all get lucky sometimes.

I was referring more to his career .238 BA.

by BGWINGS on Jul 12, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Batting average isn't everything.

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Free Scott Sizemore.

by David Tokarz on Jul 13, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's also not worth ignoring

especially when you have several years under your belt, as Mr. Inge does.

by handsomerob1 on Jul 13, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

But his OPS of .703 is probably more telling, and a more accurate indictment of his hitting abilities.

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Free Scott Sizemore.

by David Tokarz on Jul 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course I'm worried...

The HR derby is a worthless event that by and large lacks substance. Players complain of the effect it eacts on their swing and when you have a guy rolling as well as Cabrera (career high 19 gm hit streak and reasonable look at TC at this point), you can only worry really. I hope he hits 2 home runs and then has a monster 2-3 ABs in the AS game, personally. The HR derby is pointless…but I’ll be watching just to see him. (I probably should’ve went since its only about an hour from here, but whatever).

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by The Rake on Jul 12, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not so sure. The "mean" may have gotten meaner than ever this year.

Cabrera looks to me like the best hitter I’ve ever seen in Tiger stripes right now.

by Tigerdog1 on Jul 13, 2010 5:01 AM EDT reply actions  

This is great:
Bobby Abreu. Josh Hamilton. Brandon Inge. They all went into the MLB Home Run Derby as skilled hitting machines and came out of it a shell of their former selves.

I wonder if this was the 1st time Inge has been described as a “hitting machine”?

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 13, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

we've already covered this

He went in hot as hell and came out cold. That’s the point.

Inge haters unite to miss the point!

by Kurt Mensching on Jul 13, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get the point

And I’m not an Inge hater… but that is one funny sentence.

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 13, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I just wish I wasn’t the only Tiger fan that can’t stand Inge(the batter). Love Inge(the 3rd baseman)

by BGWINGS on Jul 13, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

A player that gets eliminated from the home run derby uses exactly ten swings for outs plus his home runs.

Hardly worth worrying about. Being on the cover of SI has as much to do with future success.

by Tigerdog1 on Jul 14, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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