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Magglio Ordonez fractures ankle, out 6-8 weeks - UPDATED

UPDATE 11 PM: Here's the scoop on Ordonez's contract, via Mark Snyder of the Freep:

The injury probably deals a major blow to Ordoñez’s contract extension, which had a reported $15 million option for 2011, similar to the one vested in 2009 for this season. MLB.com reported in February that Ordoñez needed to reach 135 starts or 540 plate appearances for that option to vest for 2011 and, with only 84 games played and 365 plate appearances, the odds on Ordoñez making it with a six-week absence are slim.

Mlive's Chris Iott confirms

The injury will hit the Tigers hard but also will have an effect on Ordonez, who was on pace to reach 135 starts and 540 plate appearances this season. If he reached either number – and it appeared certain he would reach both – it would automatically kick in his $15 million contract for next season.

Would owner Mike Ilitch pick up the $15M option anyway? Personally, it wouldn't surprise me at all. Ilitch is as loyal an owner as they come. But Iott doesn't think it'll happen.

But due to the injury, it seems certain that Ordonez will now fall short of those numbers, and the Tigers will have the option of picking up that year at $15 million or letting Ordonez become a free agent. It seems unlikely the Tigers would pay him that much, although they could let him become a free agent and then try to bring him back at a lower number.

At this point, there's more questions than answers...and most won't be answered till the season is over.

Original post: Breaking news (pun intended) from tonight's Tigers game.

Via the Tigers' official Twitter stream:

Magglio Ordonez has suffered a right ankle fracture. He will be sidelined for approximately 6-8 weeks

For those of you who didn't see the play, in the bottom of the 3rd the Tigers' veteran right fielder was on 1st base when Miguel Cabrera hit a long drive off the right-enter field wall. 3rd base coach Gene Lamont sent Ordonez, who was visibly slowed by an already bad ankle. Ordonez was out by three feet, and appeared to catch his spike on the slide, twisting his ankle. 

Ordonez needed help leaving the field, and was not putting any weight on his right leg.

Now we know why.

This injury puts another factor back in play; Ordonez's contract vesting.

Star-divide

I found the following in a Lynn Henning column from Septemnber '09.

He will be shooting for another option-year situation where, if he has a combined 1,080 plate appearances in 2009-2010, he gets $15 million guaranteed for 2011.

As of his second at-bat tonight, Ordonez stands at 883 plate appearances combined for '09-'10. He's about 175 short from the final option year of his contract kicking in.

The Tigers may have found another $15 million for next year's payroll...though I'm not at all happy as to the reason why.

Contract or not, there's more pressing matters to be addressed. There's the division race and trade deadline. Ordonez's ankle just threw a massive monkey wrench into the Tigers' plans for both.

Dave Dombrowski has a question he needs to ask himself.  Are the Tigers contenders without Magglio Ordonez?

The season hinges on Dombrowski's answer.

Poll
Will the Tigers remain in playoff contention without Magglio Ordonez?
Yes, the injury changes nothing.
66 votes
No, start planning for 2011.
401 votes

467 votes | Poll has closed

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he was a vital part of this lineup

period.

Welcome to Detroit, NO sissies allowed

by Detroitchik on Jul 24, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

he'll be back next year, right...?

I mean, he won’t sign a huge contract, but he’ll be back in Detroit right…?

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by DetroitTigersGeek on Jul 24, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope so

I am counting on it. I can tell you this. If Detroit doesn’t pick him someone else will, in a hurry.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 24, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like him back

He wants 4 more years? Give him 7.5 over 4?

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by David Tokarz on Jul 24, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you

Offer him arbitration instead. Yes, there’s a loyalty issue. But you’ve got to make a smart business decision too. Give him 4 years at 30 or 40mm to retire in the D.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 24, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying it's what they should do

I’m saying it’s what will probably happen. We all know how much DD loves arbitration.

by handsomerob1 on Jul 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

DD and arbitration go way back.

Don’t mention Cincinnati.

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Scott Sizemore liberationist.

by 13194013 on Jul 24, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

40 is too much

I’d be fine with low 30s, especially if he’d be willing to structure it 15/8/5/5 or so.

by theRPS on Jul 24, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game over, man.

Game over.

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by Rogo on Jul 24, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Couldn't have said it better myself

Damn, I guess it’s time to see what DD does…..I wonder if we turned into sellers rather than buyers, or if we will just chill with who we got and wait til the offseason.

by FindlayTigers on Jul 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

coming from a guy that wrote an article a week ago saying we weren’t going to make the playoffs….losing Maggs is a BIG loss….but don’t get me wrong, I hope we can still make it…..just a little tough to be optimistic

by FindlayTigers on Jul 25, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's still too much baseball left to be played to give up now

We’ve come too far to pack it in now, and besides, last year we very nearly made it to the playoffs with consistent contributions from only two or three spots in the lineup. Let’s give Maggs something meaningful to fight for when he returns. It’s the least we can do.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 25, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can try

Shift Boesch over to RF (and hope I’m not right), put Damon in LF and bring up Larish to DH. But odds are we miss the playoffs by a big margin.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Without both the Tigers’ M&M boys (Magglio and Miguel) our chances of winning the division this year have been cut drastically since Magglio fractured his ankle. They said he’d be out for 6-8 weeks. He’s made a fantastic comeback this year.

by mslegato on Jul 24, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

They'll need to do some shuffling

They should drop Raburn and call-up Larish and Steiby

by linuxit on Jul 24, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

No need to go to Toledo to watch the Mudhens play

We can watch them play here in Detroit. Go Mudhens!
How’s this line-up-
AJax, CF
Sizemore, 2b
Boesch, RF
Cabrera, 1B
Streiby, LF
Larish, 3B
Avila, C
Worth, SS

We just need a DH!

by linuxit on Jul 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Get a Seawolf.

Wilkin!

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by 13194013 on Jul 24, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good offense

Bad fielding.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 24, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of the Red Wings last year

The Detroit Griffins weren’t always easy to watch.

by handsomerob1 on Jul 24, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it works this way, but...

will we get draft picks if we lose him in F.A.?

and what’s the news on Guillen?

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by DetroitTigersGeek on Jul 24, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

We have to offer him arbitration to get draft picks

Knowing our owner and GM, Maggs’ option will likely be picked up.

by handsomerob1 on Jul 24, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree...

I would not be one bit surprised if the Tigers do pick up the $15M option. Ilitch is that sort of owner.

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by BigAl on Jul 24, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I, for one, am not giving up

As I said in the gamethread, only the loss of Cabrera or Verlander would ever convince me the season was shot. Let’s see what bats are on the market and soldier on. This is a weak and still very winnable division.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 24, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

For the contract

The combined 09-10 PAs are irrelevant for the vesting. It’s 1,080 for the last two seasons or 135 starts/540 PAs for the 2010 season. Since he had 518 PAs in ‘09, he can hit 540 PAs this year, still vest, and not hit the combined figure. So this year, I think he has 365, so he’s really about 175 PAs away from vesting.

by shakla8341 on Jul 24, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I've seen about 3 different answers to the PA thing tonight

But from reading up on it, I believe you’re correct.

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by BigAl on Jul 24, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

What to do with Gullien

Understandable everyone is worried what they are going to do with Mags, but Gullien was hurt also. I say we should use gullien as trade if that is even possible and get some fresh trade prospect (even though they will be low trades) and use them to get some help this year.

by Rustyj517 on Jul 24, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

No one will want Guillen's contract for next year

Not even the Royals.

Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.

by momotigers on Jul 25, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The good news is that we'll get to see what the future looks like in terms of our best AAA talent

That might also be the bad news. But the majority of us wouldn’t know Boesch’s name right now if Guillen hadn’t gotten hurt earlier. There could be other Boesch’s down there waiting to emerge.

by WestsideLionsFan on Jul 25, 2010 2:39 AM EDT reply actions  

regardless

Better to know than not to know.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
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by Baroque on Jul 25, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.

Or, you know, maybe not.

The Twins? Don’t have Morneau or Hudson. And the White Sox? Don’t have Peavy. This is a winnable division, even for the Tigers.

Of course things would have to go ‘right’, but they’re not dead yet guys.

by ivantopumpyouup on Jul 25, 2010 7:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Illich

Loves Maggs. He is the one who originally negotiated his contract. I am going to go out on a limb and assume (yes, I know what assumptions mean) that Mr I will deal with Maggs directly. When Ordonez was playing so pitifully in ‘09 every one thought he should go, Mr Illich let him vest. Who’s to say he isn’t going to opt to pay him the 15mm even though Maggs is on the DL? Stranger things have happened. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 25, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes he will

Not sure how familiar you are with the Red Wings, but he’s very big on loyalty (even moreso than he’s shown with the Tigers). After the last Stanley Cup the Wings won, he had the word ‘family’ inscribed on the bands of the rings. Of course, after what he did for GM last year this shouldn’t surprise anyone.

by handsomerob1 on Jul 25, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reading the opinion of someone

who is familiar with Detroit sports ( way more than me) makes me feel much better.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere already

but, they shouldn’t have sent him, right?

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by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 25, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Two wins today

are key for the rest of the season – and quite unlikely.

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by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 25, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

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