Dombrowski makes his first deadline move: 3rd baseman Jhonny Peralta is a Tiger
by BigAl on Jul 28, 2010 7:04 PM EDT
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Formerly of the Indians, 3rd baseman Jhonny Peralta is your newest Tiger.
Via the Detroit Tigers official Twitter:
@OFFICIAL_TIGERS: Tigers acquire Jhonny Peralta from Indians for minor league pitcher Giovanni Soto. #mlb
Peralta will take over 3rd base until the return of Brandon Inge. At that point, he could become an option at short. The operative word being "could."
Peralta has been a starter at either short or 3rd for the Tribe since 2005. There had been rumors he was being actively shopped, as his numbers have been tailing off for three seasons. Peralta was putting up a not good at all line of 246/.308/.389 in 2010, well down from his '05-'08 peak where he was a 20+ HR, 80+ RBI threat.
As for his contract status, Peralta is making $4.6M this season, with a $250K buyout on a $7M club option for 2011. According to Jason Beck, the Indians will continue to pay Peralta's contract for this season.
Considering what the Tigers gave up to get him, Peralta isn't a bad get. There is still some pop in his bat, and a change of scenery may be just what Peralta needs.
Soto is a 19 year old, 6'3", 155 lb left handed starting pitcher with the Class A West Michigan White Caps. He was a 21st round selection in the 2009 amateur draft. Soto was solid with the Caps, putting up a 6-6 record, a 2.61 ERA, along with 76 K in 82.2 IP in 2010. Sota was 4-0, with a 1.18 ERA in 45.2 IP with the Rookie League Gulf Coast Tigers in 2009.
Soto was a pitcher the Tigers liked, but the kid is a LONG way from being ready for the big leagues. Let alone he needs to eat a sandwich or ten with that ultra slim build...which has to be one of the reasons the Tigers felt they could deal him.
The Tigers also announced who was removed from the 40 man roster to make room for Peralta:
Tigers have designated the contract of Wilkin Ramirez for assignment to make room on 40-man roster for Peralta. #mlb
Ramirez's days as an outfield prospect are apparently over. This move clinches it, if his being demoted to Erie earlier this season didn't.
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Good move
I like this move by DD, not only gives them a back up to Inge when he comes back, but also maybe a valued started SS.
Just because he's a long way away
Doesn’t mean he isn’t good.
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Good numbers so far, but the odds remain against him
The Tigers need help now, and if trading a Single A pitcher who was a 21st round pick, and is 3-4 years away from the bigs (if he ever makes it) is the price to get help, you have to do it.
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For Jhonny Peratla.
I think I’d rather have the sandwich.
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If we get a sandwich pick.
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by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd still rather have the sandwich
Ham, turkey and roast beef. Mmmmm…
by handsomerob1 on Jul 29, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't buy the upgrade though
Nor do I buy that we’re contenders.
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by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I like it
I think it was a good move. I’m assuming he will be playing as soon as possible?
I was surprised...
I thought Soto was a pretty good prospect, and Peralta is, well, not so good.
If he returns to the old Peralta of old and fills the gap for ‘10 and ’11, then I’d say it was a great trade. We knew the left side of the infield was going to continue to be a serious problem in ’11, with no good free agents hitting the market this offseason.
Overall, I am cautiously pleased. We need hitting, and Scott Sizemore needs to be at 2nd, not Will Rhymes.
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I honestly don't think this is too bad of a move...
Soto is looking like a great pitcher, but he’s years off, as stated in the article. We now get a free chance to see Peralta, and have the opportunity to decide if we want him in our organization for another year. 7 mil is rather expensive for an average hitter with limited power, but we have the money, and with a free agent market that’s fairly dry for 2011, we might as well give this a try. Chances are Soto won’t make it to the bigs, and if he does, we still did what we needed to do for the organization at the time. Many will probably disagree with me, and that’s fine, I’m glad to see that we’re trying to give ourselves some flexibility for 2011, it’s really been the year we’ve been waiting for.
I agree that it's not too bad
Good chance to see what he’s like on a day to day basis and then decide if he’s worth $7M for 2011. DD needed to do something now to show that he hasn’t yet given up on the season. The tigers are only 4 games out (yes I know it looks bleak). I’d take Peralta for $7M for 2011 over spending too much on a free agent this off season.
By the way, why no move Inge to SS? That’s where he started in the minors and his bat wouldn’t look too bad there.
I like the move too.
I just don’t think Inge is durable enough to be counted on anymore. Peralta is young enough to be a possible long-term solution at 3B. His career has been relatively injury free also.
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by wowjimi on Jul 28, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
"I’d probably get arrested because football’s my only time I get to go out there and hit people as hard as I can, and it’s legal," Follett said. "I need that once a year."
by Rick Chaffee on Jul 28, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
with a weak class of SS availible this off-season, i like the move
He can man third til the return of CRInge and then he can shift back to SS.
Does anyone have any defensive stats on him (UZR and/or WAR)
I was under the impression that he was pretty decent defensivly? IDK might be wrong
I hate to see Soto go but he is a long shot given his size and injury past
At 3B
But at SS…
And what’s Soto’s injury past?
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by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Soto missed, like, one start...
due to elbow tenderness or something.
I feel like the main reason he was dealt was because he didn’t fit the hard-throwing, big pitcher mold DD loves. He looked really good (albiet in Single A), and I would be lying if I said I am not disappointed in seeing him go.
However, as much as I am not big on Peralta, I don’t mind it.
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Jul 29, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to shabby
He can man third til the return of CRInge and then he can shift back to SS.
Does anyone have any defensive stats on him (UZR and/or WAR)
I was under the impression that he was pretty decent defensivly? IDK might be wrong
I hate to see Soto go but he is a long shot given his size and injury past
since when do we believe a word that comes out of the mouths of Tigers folks?
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 28, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He said no top prospects would be traded for rentals.
That excludes Turner and Oliver.
Everyone else is on the block. Especially Wilkin Ramirez!
No rentals
. . . in return for giving up our top-level prospects. Evidently Soto doesn’t make the cut.
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by ty@thelionsinwinter on Jul 29, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The smart move will be to buyout his option year at $250k,
then try to resign him for 2 years for whatever his market value seems to be, which might just be around $7 Million.
ok
but, there’s no way we pick up the 7mil option right? surely for $7 million we can resign a lot better shortstop or Inge again for next year.
Well...
You would think so, but next year’s SS market is this: A decent Alex Gonzalez, followed by a steaming pile of crap.
Next year’s 3b market: a bunch of aging, bad defense-playing 3B, and light-hitting Brandon Inge. Ouch.
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Also it's better than the alternative
I think I would be a little mad if Peralta ended up in Chicago or Minnesota. Peralta would of been a decent upgrade for either of them at 3B.
Good news, bad news
I think that the best part of this trade is that it signals DD is not giving up on this season- yet. I think he wants to send that message to the players, and it’s a necessary message at this time of the season.
That being the best part, what Peralta brings to the Tigers has a value somewhere below that benefit. He just hasn’t been that good of a player . He’s below average defensively at third base according to Fangraphs UZR ratings, and he’s well below average at the plate. Inge is average in the field this season and a bit above average at the plate.
I’d be very, very skeptical of Peralta playing shortstop. He’d be like a Renteria without the offense. Ask your favorite Tribe fan, and they’ll probably tell you that this trade partially makes up for losing LeBron to Miami.
Which is why I put "could" in parentheses
I don’t see Peralta at SS either, unless it’s some sort of emergency situation.
I honestly doubt Peralta himself thinks he can play SS anymore, but hey, you never know….
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I saw that, Big Al
Harold Reynolds was on MLB network saying that, after Inge returns, the Tigers might put Peralta back at SS. I shudder to think!
Main thing for me is that DD has sent a singal to the team that he’s not packing it in this season, not yet anyway.
I’d still rather have Bautista, for this year and next…
So you'd rather buy high on player?
If Peralta’s stats were much better, he’d be unattainable or he’d cost us the farm.
Peralta has a decent track record as a player. He was considered a premier power hitting SS just a few seasons ago. He just hasn’t been that good lately. But that can be justified if you look at the team he was playing on. It could just be that he wasn’t motivated to play since Cleveland stunk so bad. Other than gaining a few pounds, he hasn’t really had any health issues.
When you combine the "nothing to lose" idea with the "might get it back" idea, this could be a steal.
Then you pick up that option, and it’s bye bye Brandon.
Experience is what counts!
Peralta is steady good ball player and he puts up RBI and he a 270 hitter and will drive you in 8o runs and is fair defense. He will not cost you arm and leg and they got him “cheap”. Tigers should bat him 4th or 5th he will drive in runs.
Something else to consider
Even though he BA and OPS are kinda low right now, maybe the change of scenary from will be what he needs to get those stats up higher. And also if I remember correctly, when he did play SS he was better in the field as well as at the plate. So I say this is a decent trade.
Peralta !!
Keep him at 3rd base and bring Inge back as Catcher and put Sizemore at 2nd. and Worth at S.S and keep B.B. batting third and Miguel 4th. and Peralta batting 5th with John batting 2nd and Austin batting first.
During the game tonight they flashed his batting stats
against the Twins and CWS, they were pretty good. I like it, it’s a little tit for tat after the Twins traded for Pavono.
I really didn't want Dunn
Then I saw this deal.
I changed my mind.
If your gonna have bad defenders and players that can’t run, might as well get some fireworks with them.
The player you people are talking about no longer exists, if he ever did.
There is nothing Peralta can do that Sizemore or Larrish can’t accomplish and they have inexperience as an excuse.
If you think Peralta gats the Tiger to the World Series you are delusional.
I really hope I am wrong but I don’t think I am.
by MasterOfPuppets on Jul 28, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
It's Larish
But I’m just being picky about a comment I agree with.
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by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Peralta and Damon
Two players who can put the ball in play and you need some veterans in your kine up. Brendan, Worth, Sizemore is all you need as rookies.
Peralta !!
Peralta should bat 3rd or 5th with Miguel and Brendan in between and Jackson and Johnny in between, more power and Peralta will drive in runs, all he needs is a “change in another team”..
I don't know where anyone's getting that Peralta can provide power.
He’s been on par with Orlando Hudson and Yuniesky Betancourt power-wise since 2009.
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That's some exclusive company.
Exclusively bad,.
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Yup.
Peralta’s got a .129 Iso. Hudson = .129 Iso, Yuni = .127.
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by Mike Rogers on Jul 28, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Inge cannot catch!
Then we need a power hitting CATCHER , GO OUT AND get someone else, we need a catcher who can hit and we need more power in the line up, they will walk Miguel Cab. and the Tigers will never go anywhere.
Power hitting catchers are few and far, far between.
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by Mike Rogers on Jul 28, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Career year
He’s a “buy high” candidate this year.
by handsomerob1 on Jul 29, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
buck is a fly ball catcher and a lot of those home runs would be long outs at comerica
by NaptownTigers on Jul 29, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry for the book of a response, but ...
John Buck’s power is a career high. From 07-09 Buck sported a .179 Isolated Power (Slugging minus batting average) and this year he’s jumped to .231. He had a high Iso last year as well but that was in a limited setting.
With a 15.2% HR to fly ball ratio, he’s sitting about 3% higher than his career norms. If we put him at his career 12.6% HR/FB rate, we can calculate his expected homers and how that would affect his overall numbers.
He’s hit 92 fly balls this year with 14 going over the fence. quick and easy: .126*92=11-12 homers which knocks off 2-3 homers and 8-12 total bases.
He sits at 137 total bases and if you take off 8-12 total bases, he drops to 125-129.
Now, we convert 2-3 fly balls in to outs just for eases sake and he now has 72-73 hits instead of 75 out of 268 AB’s which drops his average from .280 to .269 if you take away 3 hits and .272.
Now find his SLG: 125 total bases divided by 268 AB’s = .466 and 129 TB = .481.
So if you knock off 2 HR you’re down to an Iso of .197 and if you knock off 3 HR you’re down to an Iso of .209. That’s a far cry from the .231 Iso.
There’s a ton of skewing that can be done if you get a couple extra balls into a jet stream and over the fence on the road or something of that ilk.
Now, we move to Hit Tracker Online to double check is subjective data. They have classifications of Just Enough (JE), Lucky (L), Plenty (PL) and No Doubt (ND).
Buck’s homers this year:
ND
ND
ND
ND
JE
PL
JE
JE/L
JE
PL
PL
JE
ND
PL
PL
That’s 5 “Just Enough” homers and one of them is JE/L which indicates that had that ball been struck at a 70 degree angle on a calm day, there’s a decent chance it doesn’t even clear the wall.
So if you take out 5 homers from Buck – the JE’s – you get him to 117 Total Bases, 70 hits and that drops his slugging to .437 and his batting average down to .261 and an Iso of .176.
Buck’s career Isolated Power? .179. I’ll pass.
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Perfect move
I think we’re done for the season, but we get half a seasons worth of look at a guy that was a borderline all-star from ‘05-’08. At worst, hes Adam Everett, at best hes Carlos Guillen in his prime (offensively speaking).
The beginning of the end of the misery
HA! That gets a rec!
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Took me a couple seconds
But it’s amusing and screw Cleveland. Rec’d
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by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Worse yet, Leyland plans to put Peralta at SS
Detroit manager Jim Leyland, after the Tigers were beat 7-4 by Tampa Bay, said Inge will start at third when he returns and that Peralta will get playing time at shortstop and DH.
“I think it sends the right message to the team,” Leyland said of the trade. “We’re going to do something.”
Yeah right, Jimbo, it sends the message that defense doesn’t matter at shortstop.
Get a real third baseman, a replacement for Ordonez that can hit .300 with 20 HR and 100 RBI, and a starting pitcher, and I’ll begin to buy into your message.
a replacement for Ordonez that can hit .300 with 20 HR and 100 RBI
How many of these guys are there in baseball? I’m just curious.
by handsomerob1 on Jul 29, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
10 probably
And they’re all expensive or locked up long-term.
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by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
We should have tried to pry Choo from Cleveland.
Instead of JhCS.
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or Asdrubal
I would have been much more content with either one.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Not many, but the Tiger lineup needs to be upgraded, not downgraded.
If not Magglio’s stat line, then add some production in another area, such as speed with a power combination. Or give us a modest upgrade in the 2 slot with Magglio back for a swan song in the 3 slot.
But hardly any of those guys are available
The only one that I could see us landing is Beltre if he decides to (a) opt out of his deal with Boston, and (b) not re-sign with Boston for multiple years. I still don’t think he will leave Beantown for a team he refused to interview with the last time he was a free agent.
It’s not the big time power guys that are the problem. Obviously we’ve seen what kind of year Cabrera is having. Before his injury, Magglio was on pace for right around 100 RBI and 15-20 homers. As long as he breaks out of this slump, Boesch could hit 90 RBI despite missing the first month of the season. Like we’ve said all year, it’s the bottom of the lineup giving us problems.
I understand the desire to get a .300/20/100 guy to replace Magglio, but numbers like that don’t just grow on trees. If we had the farm system to gut for a guy like this, then it might be possible to steal one from a smaller market team, but the fact of the matter is that we probably don’t have enough quality prospects to make a team give up a premier player.
by handsomerob1 on Jul 29, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
how much would the organization have to pay for a guy like that?
Surely, too much to rent. And who knows what one like that will cost as an FA. Better to deal with our woes and wait till the off season.
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When you take Magglio and Damon out of the lineup, there are huge gaps in the 2 and 3 holes, and nobody internally that is remotely qualified to fill the gaps.
The power can be had, but combining it with a .300 average is where it becomes difficult. In the 2 slot, player like Crawford, with high average and decent power, but a ton of speed makes sense. He’s expensive, but so are the guys that are leaving. In the 3 slot, look at Adam Dunn or Jason Werth. Again, expensive, but it has to be done. HAS to be.
The alternative is to bring back Damon and/ or Magglio.. Whether Magglio would still be a 20 HR guy is questionable, but we need one. We also need speed on the bases. Someone to make opposing pitchers keep one eye off the hitter, and throw some fastballs to our 3 and 4 guys.
The money coming off the books is all well and good, but the Tigers need to find two stud hitters to bat second and third in this lineup, and it won’t be easy.
I don't see the need for Crawford
A guy like him is only useful offensively if he’s allowed to run. Leyland’s teams consistently rank among the worst in the league in stolen bases. Part of that has to do with a lack of team speed, but part of that is also his reliance on (a) guys getting base hits, or (b) the hit and run. Austin Jackson should have twice as many steals as he has so far this year, if not more. Crawford, while a good player, won’t be allowed to play to his strengths here.
by handsomerob1 on Jul 29, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Good points, but the Tigers need to change the chemistry of their lineup.
There is little or no pressure on opposing pitchers to hold the runner, since they know they’re not gonna steal. Granderson should have had twice as many steals as he had with the Tigers. A manager has to allow his players to show their strengths. If Crawford is not allowed to steal, then there’s a problem with management, not the player.
the chemistry of their
lineup has changed drastically over the last week. That’s a big part of the problem we’re having now. And I wish some of you would get off Crawford. He’ll never be in a D, I don’t see Detroit as part of his future.
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He's only the ideal situation
if Leyland changes this team’s focus overnight. He’s a great fit in Tampa because they are built on speed. We’re built around Maggs and Miguel in the middle of the lineup. The emergence of Boesch this year just reinforced this reliance on the power bats. I’m not giving up “hope,” for lack of a better word, on getting Crawford but he’s not the answer to our problems when he won’t be allowed to do what he does best.
by handsomerob1 on Jul 29, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Between all the vacancies at 3B, SS, RF, DH, and Catcher (pitchers aside) two of those guys have to bat second and third.
Damon gives us a player that sets the table with an OBP of .375 or so, and Magglio hits .300 and was on pace for 20 HR and 100 RBI. That’s the tricky part of replacing these guys, those two spots in the batting order. No great catastrophe if we can’t get a slugging SS or 3B if the RF and DH can do those jobs.
The ideal is that we get a SS that can get on base, run the bases, and play solid D. Look at Maicer Izturis, Jason Bartlett, Brignac or Rodriguez. They may fill that role. Other than that, we’re looking to the OF and DH to bat second and third. Could be a Dunn, Werth, Crawford, or maybe get Maggs and/ or Damon back for a year and hope the decline isn’t too steep. Whatever it is, it won’t be cheap, but then the savings are more than there to pay for it.
The Ideal solution?
really. So you think acquiring Crawford will solve the issues the Tigers are facing at 2nd; 3rd; SS, LF; and RF How so? Because I see the solution as acquiring good pieces to fill those gaps for 2011. Carlos Guillen is not the solution at 2nd, he has very little range and has trouble turning a double play as we’ve seen time and again since he took over there. Binge is a very good 3rd baseman and adds depth to the roster, I hope he gets re-signed. Jhonny Peralta will most likely not return to the lineup in 2011 so you may end up with Crawford, but other than him and Cabrera (possibly Inge if he’s re-signed) You end up with 2 or maybe 3 decent bats in the lineup and we’re in the same situation next season as this season.
We need to have players who play every day and a couple of utility guys that fill in on days off. I see that as another issue. We platoon too many players and trade positions too much. How can a player get out there and be expected to perform like an everyday SS, when he’s nor. Maybe he’s playing there 2 or 3 times a week.
Consistency is the key to a good solid performer. If you look around the league(s) most lineup run in the same order everyday with the same guys playing. There are very few teams who change the lineup as often as Leyland. We have more utility players than anything. The smartest thing to do, in my honest opinion is wait till the off season acquire 3 or 4 good position players and start to draft them so we add depth to the minor league system and quit turning them into utility guys.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean?
“So you think acquiring Crawford will solve the issues the Tigers are facing at 2nd; 3rd; SS, LF; and RF How so?”
WHAT? Where do you get that idea? One player can fill only one spot, obviously. But Crawford brings several things to the table. He’s able to bat in either the second or third spot in the order, depending how JL wants to structure the lineup- probably second. He adds a ton of speed, and is the best defensive player at his position in the game. You know that I’m talking about signing Crawford as a free agent this winter, right?
I could see Inge coming back, but on a one or two year deal. His defense has sharply declined, particularly in terms of range. This is obvious from his stats on fangraphs.com. I’d first look to upgrade each and every one of these vacancies, and then consider bringing guys back. The selections at third base look pretty slim on the free agent market, and non existent at shortstop, although a SS looks easier to trade for.
It’s those two spots in the lineup at 2 and 3 that are the big sticking point. They could play any position, but if they play an infield position, that’s an added bonus because then DD could add a decent outfield bat down the order. If all else fails, maybe DD has to bring back Magglio and/ or Damon. I’d rather get younger, but production in those spots isn’t the easiest thing to replace.
I see no advantage to waiting. Why stop looking when you know there are needs, and most of the needs this winter are there right now anyway? Trading now for a Shortstop, or a third baseman, or an outfielder is better than waiting. Trading for a Type A rental brings compensation picks with the player instead of having to pay compensation by signing the player in the winter. If the price is right, and it’s not right with Dunn, then make the move. I’d rather trade for Josh Willingham anyway. I think he’d be a more reasonably priced, excellent addition to the lineup, and would cost less to trade for.
on Jhonny's mom
this is true – i know a girl who has a Japanese mother and Hawaiian father. At birth they asked for her name and the mother who wanted the name Linda said Rinda, and that is her name now due to a mispronunciation. The only person named Rinda I ever heard of.
C'Monnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Just like the joke: There is an Italian guy, Irish guy and a Japanese guy working at a construction site and the foreman tells them “I want you to all to move this pile of dirt from right here to over there while I am gone and when I get back it all better be moved.” He then tells the Italian guy he is shovel the dirt, he tells the Irish guy he is to move the dirt in the wheelbarrel and tells the Japanese guy that he is in charge of supplies. So the foreman comes back in two hours and the dirt isn’t moved. So he says to the Italian and Irish guys, “why isn’t this moved?” And they say, “we couldn’t move it, the Japanese guy who was in charge of supplies disappeared, we couldn’t move it without any supplies”. So the foreman looks all around for the Japanese guy and walks by the pile of dirt and out comes the Japanese guy springing from the dirt yelling “SUPPLIES”
by J and S' Team on Jul 29, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Peralta deal
This is was about as good a deal as DD could do. Too many holes to fill, and at least he picks up a veteran with a little power. The line-up they have had since the injuries has been comical and depressing at the same time. I never realized this year I would get to see the Toledo Mud Hens instead of the Detroit Tigers! Besides today; the pitching has been good enough to win lately. These young guys have been put on the spot, except for Jackson and Boesch, they just are not ready period. There is no team in baseball that could lose their starting 3B, starting 2B, and starting RF and not go in a tailspin!! If the Yanks lost A-Rod, Cano, and Swisher they would stink too!!!!!!!
who are the Tigs going to demote/DFA to get Peralta on the 25-man? I know Wilkin is off the 40-man, but what’s the next move?
Probably Rhymes
Though it could be SS
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by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Will Rhymes, no?
I don’t see a point to having him on the 25 man roster with another infielder being on the roster. Santiago at 2nd, Worth at SS and Sizemore/Peralta at 2nd/3rd. Rotating Worth, Santiago or Sizemore through 2nd depending on who’s playing SS and getting the day off.
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I was thinking Larish at first
Although if Petalta is possibly going to play short, then it’s probably Rhymes or SS. But Rhymes has got some nice batting order preference since coming up, with ok performance, so who knows. Larish provides more of a power potential than the other two.
Ummmm... Wait...
Can Peralta even play SS anymore?
And is he going to be Inge’s replacement not only this year, but next when Inge’s contract ends?
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Jul 29, 2010 1:30 AM EDT reply actions
Here's my question:
What’s the point of having Jeff Larish play other positions like, you know, 3rd base if when OUR THIRD BASEMAN BREAKS HIS HAND and Larish can’t get time there? I get that he’s probably not a good defender there but it’s not like Peralta is Brooks Robinson either and I’ll put more money on larish being the better hitter over the next 5 weeks than Peralta.
The Tigers seem hell-bent on making Larish into Mike Hessman part deux.
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I think Larish
actually has multiple gold gloves in the minors, 1B, I know, but still a good sign. I wonder if he can still play corner outfield, use him to give BB a little break here and there.
Excellent question
And I’m not sure that Larish wouldn’t be better than Peralta both offensively and defensively.
Oh and (unless the Tigers want him back for $7 mil...) so much for no "short term rentals"
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Jul 29, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions
Bonderman . . .
. . . spells this guy’s name, “Johnny”
Angels are shopping Macier Itzuris
I am sure they would want more than Soto for him, but i would MUCH rather have Itzuris than Peralta.
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