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Can somebody please tell me why we need so many Utility Players?


Why did Scott Sizemore get demoted while Will Rhymes and Danny Worth are still up here?

Why are Will Rhymes and Danny Worth still up here?

Ramon Santiago,Don Kelly,Ryan Raburn,Danny Worth and Will Rhymes are all utility players are they not? they are not supposed to be everyday players correct? am i missing something? Why do we keep Scott Sizemore and Brent Dlugach down in the minors and keep these guys on the roster? Seriously i am completely dumbfounded. Is it because Jim Leyland thinks "They play Baseball how it should be played"?

Seriously the loss of Guillen and Inge shouldn't hurt us all that much specially since we have Peralta now i mean he will probably give us Inge type numbers at the plate and in the field. Guillen looks terrible in the field so you downgrade a little on offense, so what? Maggs hurts the most but maybe Frazier can add a punch to the lineup and even fill in at the 3 spot in our lineup.

I say demote Rhymes and Worth and bring up Sizemore and Dlugach they start 2nd and SS and Santiago backs them up. Kelly can back up Peralta at 3rd.

Are Rhymes and Worth really better than Sizemore and Dlugach?

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They're all marginal big leaguers

How can anyone differentiate between them? I doubt Leyland wants any of them in his starting lineup, but flexibility is important when there are fewer bench players on the roster these days. What I’ve seen of Sizemore, and clearly what Tigers management has decided, is he’s a slug.

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by StorminNormanCash on Jul 30, 2010 1:50 AM EDT reply actions  

they are NOT marginal.

Once a guy has spent 6 -7 years in A ball, he’s a minor leaguer. The guys they are bringing up are all over 25 -26yrs. Its because they have no good prospects in our farm system. And we have no players to fill in the gap while we have major league players on the DL. To me a prospect is someone who’s brought up after a year or two in the minors and he’s maybe 22-24 years old. What prospects we do have are all pitchers

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by Detroitchik on Jul 30, 2010 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to be kind

and technically, they are major leaguers right now.

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by StorminNormanCash on Jul 30, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sorry Norm

I wasn’t trying to be rude, just realistic…. Norman Cash, Now HE was a true blue major leaguer!

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by Detroitchik on Jul 30, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 utility players is nuts

I agree that the roster has too many players of similar skills (or lack thereof). I’d rather see Sizemore get some experience at 2B before Leyland goes back to the misguided path of playing Carlos there. I agree with Stormin that management is certainly down on Sizemore and doesn’t want to hand a job to him anymore. But he at least has better projections at the bat than any of the others.

At the beginning of the year I wanted to see Dlugach get a chance since he has reportedly good defense for SS. But his batting projected as Everett at that time and he hasn’t even lived up to that in Toledo.

Leyland needs to pick two guys – one for 2B and one for SS – and stick with them for awhile.

by MR_AZ on Jul 30, 2010 2:01 AM EDT reply actions  

If you look around the organization - that's all we have

We don’t but that’s how they keep building them in the minors. I don’t know who’s in charge of the draft, but they need to get off the pitching and focus on position players who can swing a bat.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 30, 2010 6:37 AM EDT reply actions  

all the bad mojo

is the Adam Everett curse.

I ’m not sure if a goat was involved- but bad luck aplenty since June 6 when we kicked Everett to the curb.

2010 games when Everett started = .571 (16 -12)
2010 games Everett did not start = .481 (13 -14)

(only including games til Jun. 6)

and they have been nothing but confused about who to play at 2B and SS since. ….just sayin’

by wowjimi on Jul 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And after June 6, we went on two tears right up until the all-star break.

I don’t think you mean to say we should still be playing Everett, but the only thing Everett related that is causing us to lose games was actually playing him at SS.

by crc33 on Jul 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

no of course it was not serious

i don’t believe in curses.

But the facts show that he wasn’t the problem in winning BUT the Tiger brain trust looked at it as if he WAS the problem. They were wrong, we were better when he played. (ball don’t lie)

Also lately, for example, Leyland has said that if we can just get starting pitching we will be ok — well we have had fine starting pitching – and still losing. wrong assessment there also.

or we don’t want a trade unless it’s a significant upgrade – he doesn’t want to just get “a little bettter”. Then we trade for Jhonny - you tell me whether that is a significant upgrade. I classify it as just a little better.

My conclusion is I am disappointed they don’t seem to know what the problem is, or how to fix it. We are just playing revolving door, trial and error substitutions.

by wowjimi on Jul 30, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take this one

Will Rhymes is hitting right now.
Don Kelly has no options.
Scott Sizemore can play 2B every day in Toledo.
Dlugach is an afterthought.

by theRPS on Jul 30, 2010 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Will Rhymes is hitting right now but that doesn't mean he's our best option

Rhymes has a .286 avg—and a .286 OBP. I understand, SSS, but you have to think that even if he took some walks, his .307 wOBA is his ceiling, which is pretty underwhelming.

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by baum on Jul 30, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what was that???

“Will Rhymes is hitting right now.”
Will Rhymes is hitting right now but that doesn’t mean he’s our best option.”
“I maintain that Will Rhymes is hitting right now.”

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by baum on Jul 30, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zomg

He’s got an 88+ OPS+ in 21 AB. Clearly he’s irreplaceable.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore gets to play

everyday at second in Toledo. So, imo he is still in the plans for beyond 2010. Rhymes playing second, brings a certain energy so might as well ride it for now, reminds me of a david eckstein type, Worth makes the plays at short and could be on the bench like Santiago beyond this year.
Tigers just don’t have a “star” quality position player to bring up. This is in part due to DD going after power arms early in the draft the past few years.
None of this happens except for the fact they got completely blindsided with Inge, Maggs, and Carlos going down.

by KalineCountry on Jul 30, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

But he gets to play every day in Toledo after he had his chances in Detroit.

Yeah, I am not a fan of seeing Sizemore left in Toeldo.

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by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can never have too many utility players!

signed, Phil Garner.

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by Misopogon on Jul 30, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Rhymes has speed and is very good defense 2nd baseball player, and he can hit and bunt, the Tigers need to “bunt” more, if you watch the game last night at Boston you will see it was the bunt by Worth who move the players to 2nd & third and they got two runs out of that, that is why the Tigers need more bunting and keep Rhymes and Worth in the line up. Peralta will bring more “punch” and he is a verteran ball player

by J.F on Jul 31, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

The Tigers do not need to bunt more.

Bunting is stupid.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2006/07/empirical_analy_1.php

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by David Tokarz on Jul 31, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

beacuse your entire team is injured

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 31, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Says the Boston fan

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by David Tokarz on Aug 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I do

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by bestbostonsports on Aug 1, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Youkilis disagrees with you

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by David Tokarz on Aug 4, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Youkilis doesn't count

The lack of a gigantic douchebag in their lineup makes me think they’re better.

by handsomerob1 on Aug 4, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Futility players

You can never have enough of them on the way to 77-85.

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by 51hr_slurpee on Aug 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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