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Prince Fielder Wearing the Old English D?





Should the Tigers sign Fielder and move Cabrera back to third? Miguel Cabrera has never been known for his strong defense, but he played there well enough in the past... it's just that Brandon Inge's defense was so much better. If you do that, perhaps Inge can move to second... or short (with Peralta moving to second). What do you you think? Personally, I do agree that defense is an issue. I can just imagine the Tiger's lineup with a smasher like Fielder batting cleanup. You put Cabrera batting third... and Martinez batting fifth... and wow! What do you think?

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by momotigers on Oct 17, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no

No it wouldn’t be a good idea
and no it’s not gonna happen

For the money and for the (lack of) baseball sense trying to put Miggy back at third.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Oct 17, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by David Tokarz on Oct 17, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

you don’t want to see Miggy at 3rd for an entire season. you probably don’t even want to see him there for 1 game. he’s put in the work and turned himself into an above average 1B in the field. I know it seems like a good idea when you think of those 3 hitting together… but it’d be a bad idea to actually do it, and it won’t happen.

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by tigers22 on Oct 17, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

A third NO

Miggy is solid at first (though somone MUST try and reign him in a bit on cutting off the second baseman) and Victor will be DH ing until the end of his contract.

And Fielder is IMO simply not worth the bread he is going to get

by Jim Bunn on Oct 17, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Demote!

Is that possible?

Thanks for the discussion fodder, but I can’t think of a worse way to spend 100M.

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by momotigers on Oct 17, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I got a sick feeling about Prince Fielder

I think he’ll be winner of the worst bad contract in MLB history.

by Keith-Allen on Oct 17, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

You mean Dunn's 4 yrs/$56M?

IMO, that’s not too bad to where it’s going to hurt the team beyond repair. The Tigers were on the hook with Carlos Guillen’s 4 yrs/$48M and survived it fairly well.

Prince Fielder is looking to get around 8 yrs / $200M.

by Keith-Allen on Oct 17, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Howard has a torn ACL

And he hasn’t even started on his new deal.

by Grant E. on Oct 20, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's actually a torn Achilles heel

not ACL

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by tigers22 on Oct 20, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My heart says it'd be fun

Then my brain stabs my heart in the face and says, “SHUT UP YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.”

So, no.

by TartanElk on Oct 17, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Go for it

In your MLB The Show franchise mode, that is.

by Rob Rogacki on Oct 17, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome game

But I prefer OOTP Baseball. Best sim baseball game there is.

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by Boeschlander on Oct 18, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOTP FTW!

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by vifinn on Oct 21, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What in the world makes you think Cabrera can still play third?

And for the price Fielder will command? He’s not worth it.

I have a grand idea: let's win a game.

by 13194013 on Oct 17, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

No x 100

Miggy’s health is priority number one. Prince will cost a.. dare I say it.. king’s ransom. The risk and cost aren’t rational

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by BrianCMU. on Oct 17, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

REALLY - A Kings Ransom? Bet The Freep will use that when Prince signs with the Yankees

I wonder where Fielder WILL end up – Is Arlington Texas a destination? What about Anaheim? My guess is he comes to the AL where he can spend second half of contract as DH.

by Jim Bunn on Oct 18, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd think the Cubs will be a serious suitor

if they don’t land Pujols, Theo could be looking to make a splash… and I think Prince could do some real damage hitting at Wrigley

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by tigers22 on Oct 18, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're going to get a slugger

get one that can stand in RF and let Austin Jackson catch everything west of his shadow.

by Thorpac on Oct 17, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

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by David Tokarz on Oct 18, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I'd like to be better able to quantify what Boesch will give us

because you don’t want to go into the season counting on him to be the No. 3 hitter and the first half Boesch, but you don’t want to block him, either. Frustrating part about his injury in the second half.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Oct 19, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like 2012's OF better than 2011's

In 2011, we went in with Raburn, Jackson, and Maggs. Boesch won the #4 spot late in camp. There was worry that Raburn would start slow (again) and that Maggs might not be fully healed (founded).

For next year, I’m less worried about Young than I was about Raburn and I’m less worried about Boesch than I was about Maggs. Plus, Raburn is still around as insurance (although I’m hoping we don’t need much of him until July).

I’d still like to see DeJesus inspected. He could be a good #2 hitter for this team and might give us a surplus of OF to deal for another one of our needs.

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by momotigers on Oct 19, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's a fair comment

although, I wasn’t worried about Magglio to start the season. I felt like Tiger management apparently did about Maggs- he had hit very well before getting hurt in 2010, was on pace for .300/ 20/ 100 at that point, and his leg checked out when he worked out. I felt we really needed his bat in the 3 hole and BB could not be counted on. I don’t like what I saw from Boesch after the break this season- again.

First Half .306 .360 .490 .850
Second Half .219 .288 .368 .656, 123 PA. From legit All Star to minor leaguer again.

Raburn is insurance for Boesch, IMO.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Oct 19, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raburn and Boesch sure fit well together

Match made in heaven. One plays in the first half and not in the second and vice versa. If Leyland can somehow figure out when that magical date is, he’d be a genius. Let’s say it’s the all-star game.

Boesch – 2011 – Pre A/S Break: .306 / .490 / .851 – 57R, 12HR, 44RBI (314 AB)
Raburn – 2011 – Post A/S Break: .341 / .574 / .967 – 23R, 6HR, 18RBI (129 AB)

Let say we just make a clean break at the all star game. Boesch gets every at bat before the ASG (maybe makes the AS Team) and then never picks up a bat afterward. Raburn never picks up a bat before the ASG. Based on 162 games with the ASG at about game #100, we would see 62% of AB’s before the break and 38% after. Also, based on 550 AB’s total, here’s what we’d get.

Boesch – 341 AB’s, 62R, 13HR, 48RBI
Raburn – 209 AB’s, 37R, 10HR, 29RBI

By applying a few proportions, here’s how your overall Raboesch, superhuman would look.

Raboesch, 2012 total = .323/.522/.895, 99R, 23HR, 77RBI.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Oct 20, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It kinda did!

Like Jack Sprat and his wife.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Oct 20, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no

I would love to see Prince Fielder in wearing the Old English D, but I see two little problems. One, I don’t believe the Tigers can pay him, and the money that Fielder would cost could really be used elsewhere. Second, and this is kind of big, where would we put him? Miguel has 1B locked up for several more years and Victor has the DH role locked up, and I don’t think Miguel moving to 3B answers anything. So, no thank you.

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by cabby4mvp on Oct 17, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i would love the bat

but there’s nowhere to put him.
and hex no to moving cabby.

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by DetroitTigersGeek on Oct 17, 2011 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely not

What is the obsession with this team and sluggers anyway? Has anyone ever actually BEEN to Comerica Park?

If you’re going to throw money at the problem, there are plenty of expensive third basemen out there.

by metatron5369 on Oct 18, 2011 2:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think he would want to hit in Coamerica

Would he really want to see his career HR numbers hindered by our beautiful park?

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by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Oct 18, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

No, no and NO

Fielder looks like a good guy and all, but I think he would mess up how to set the batting order….AND I don’t want Cabby back at third base anymore, we can’t platoon these two players. Knowing that weasel Kenny Williams, he’ll try to one-up use again this offseason and sign him to an extended contract…then he’ll go all Adam Dunn on them, and they’ll put themselves in an even bigger hole! Hahahahahahahaha

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by Boeschlander on Oct 18, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I would never sign Fielder, but he wouldn't mess up the order

VMart would be a heck of a #3 hitter, followed by Cabrera and Fielder. It would be even better if we pushed them all up a spot.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Oct 18, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would be Miggy3, Prince4, VMart5

but as everyone says, it’s never gonna happen.

That’s the scary thing about the Rangers. They’re that good but have Mitch Moreland playing first. Could they possibly afford Prince? They’ve will have collected revenue for an additional 7+ games on their 2011 schedule. But that’s only one year. If they’re gonna contend every year, eventually they’ll have to secure some of that young pitching.

I wonder if Brandon Phillips is the big target now.

by Dergunna Wavimin on Oct 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prince would never sign with Detroit

He and Cecil aren’t exactly close, so why would he sign here when constant comparisons would be inevitable?

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by Elfuego51 on Oct 22, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

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