Max Scherzer helps lift Tigers to ALDS series split in New York
by Kurt Mensching on Oct 2, 2011 7:35 PM EDT
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PrintKEY STATS
Max Scherzer -- 5 1/3 no-hit innings, 0 runs allowed
Yankees -- 0-for-7 with runners in scoring position
Miguel Cabrera -- HR
KEY PLAYS
Actually getting Robinson Cano out when it counts. He could have made the New Yorkers quite happy when he came to the plate in the ninth inning, but Jose Valverde got him to ground out to second instead for the game-ender.
Cano singled in the sixth to break up Max Scherzer's no-hitter.
All the Tigers' scoring plays? Miguel Cabrera homered in the first for the 2-0 lead. Cabrera and Victor Martinez drove in runs in the sixth for the 4-0 lead. (Derek Jeter earns the assist for an inning-opening error.) Finally, Don Kelly, playoff wizard, drove in an insurance run in the ninth.
Joaquin Benoit used a couple of strikeouts to help Scherzer escape the seventh unscathed.
KEY THOUGHTS
WHEW.
WHEW.
WHEW WHEW WHEW.
WHEW.
I don't know if I can sigh and exhale enough after that. Way too much stress. First you're worrying about the no hitter, then you're still worrying about winning the game. And then you're worrying about the next day's bullpen.
And then you're really, really, really worrying and shaking and rocking and curling in the fetal position and freaking out and breathing shallowly and averting your eyes and freaking out as Jose Valverde struggles to get the third out in the ninth. He struggled to get the first out in the ninth. That was bad enough.
When Alex Avila slipped on THE YANKEES LOGO(!) on-deck circle as he tried to make the game-ending catch, then Curtis Granderson walked, then Robinson Cano came to the plate with a chance to give the Yankees a walkoiff victory and dagger into Detroit's hearts, I was pretty sure the baseball gods scripted it that way as some sort of punishment to Tigers fans. I don't know why we'd have deserved punishment. We put up with so much. But you never know what causes a vengeful god to toss a lightning bolt at your butt. So I was freaked. As were you if you're truly honest with yourself.
My blood pressure rises just reliving that.
WHEW.
Blogging is gong to be so much easier for the next 24 hours.
The big differences today came were that the key players Detroit needed to perform to win showed up. That's especially true from the batting order. No one but Delmon Young got much of anything going in Game 1. In Game 2, while Young's bat fell silent, Cabrera came up big with three RBIs and Martinez added a fourth. This was set up by Magglio Ordonez's three-hit game.
Meanwhile Max Scherzer did everything he needed to on the mound. He was truly the wild card. You never know what you'll get, but when he's good he's really good. He kept the ball in the park -- really, kept it in the infield -- and struck out five. He had a few hiccups along the way but pitched out of them.
Detroit needed to win one game in New York. Obviously the way you draw it up is for Justin Verlander to win Game 1, Doug Fister to have a great chance at winning Game 2, and Scherzer to take the mound at home for Game 3. So it didn't work out quite that way. Who cares.
Justin Verlander will take the mound in Detroit with a chance to give his team a choke-hold on the series, while the Yankees are now the ones who could be considered in a must-win situation. Well, they are in a must-win situation. If they don't win a game in Detroit, they don't play another home game in New York until 2012.
There's a few worries, to be sure. Joaquin Benoit may not be available after going two innings, and Jose Valverde stayed on the mound pretty long himself. But that's OK. Verlander is the ace for a reason. Complete game, Justin. We're going to need one. Can you deliver?
A winding, wet road in New York, maybe. But the Tigers can fly home with their heads held high. They did what they needed to in New York.
WHEW.
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Damn TBS never did show the dance!
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
I know, I was disappointed...
I’ve been longing to see a post-season potato dance :(
President of the Tony Scheffler Fan Club
Did he do one?
I was kind of thinking he wouldn’t. He usually doesn’t if he fucks something up during a game.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
I guess it was a muted "half-dance"
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
it was raining
Probably wanted to get off the field, get changed, and get the heck back home for the next game. Quick turnaround.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Great Win
Miggy, (3 Hits, 3 RBI, HR and Stolen Base), Matt and Victor also came through when the Tigers needed it.
I am too old for this too
I could only watch when the Tigers were at bat. LOL
When they move to Comerica tomorrow I will watch the entire game.
Game 3 – Verlander
Game 4 – Porcello
Needless to say both of these are big games though not as big as today. The Tigers really don’t want to return to N.Y this post-season.
Great win.
That oughta motivate them to win at home even more!
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
WAYY too stressful
but nonetheless, time to come home and take care of business. brand new series now.
the atmosphere at Comerica should be electric tomorrow night with JV on the mound. time to get up 2-1
No longer the Founder, President and CEO of the Ryan Raburn Fan Club
i cud not blog in the 9th. I was so nervous,
I was pacing in the house…gulped bunch of beers. When Avila slipped…i thought god is playing games with us. Finally, we got it!
No Benoit tomorrow. Valverde is a question mark. But, hey we are going home!
place will be rocking tomorrow night.
AAAAAAAAAAA OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
I JUST GOT A BLEACHER SEAT FOR THE GAME ON MONDAY NIGHT EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE A TWO HOUR DRIVE SO I WON’T BE HOME UNTIL THE WEE HOURS AND I HAVE TO GO TO WORK IN THE MORNING BUT I DON’T CARE BECAUSE A TIGER PLAYOFF GAME IS ON MY BUCKET LIST AND I HAVE TO GO TO THE GAME!!!!!!
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
by Baroque on Oct 2, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
my credit card is getting a workout
But I don’t care. This doesn’t happen every year and I NEED TO BE THERE EVEN IN THE BLEACHERS IN SECTION 150.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
similar
It was ticket network.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I could have gotten cheaper way up on the top tier
But I wanted to be lower and closer to the field, so bleachers it was. I just want to be in the park for this and feel the energy in person.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I don't blame you
if I was able to go, I would too!
No longer the Founder, President and CEO of the Ryan Raburn Fan Club
I figure it will be worth it.
I don’t make the trip often, so when I do I may as well make it worth my while.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Going To Game #4, 5 Hour Drive From Mackinaw City (stopping for pit stops)
My Dad & I will be at Game #4. We plan on leaving around 11:00 or Noon. Hope we clinch that night. We have a very long drive, but I took the day off & Wed. is my regular day off. We are in section 124, Row 22. I figured if we were going to pay $$$$ it might as well be a good view.
Enjoy your game tomorrow night.
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 2, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Lucky. *pouts*
Have fun! :)
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Oct 2, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Series Is Now Tied
Weather 1
Tigers 1
Yankees 1
Hourly forecast says 58 and partly cloudy at first pitch, 20% precipitation.
The rain is supposed to happen early afternoon.
The TV news says showers in the morning, all clear for the game
HIgh 69, low 44
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
I was surprised to see Benoit in the 7th inning
but I’m glad Leyland played it that way. Not many guys I’d trust with 2 men on base entering the game. Really just Al Al and Benoit. Benoit earned his keep again.
agreed
that was wicked smart by leyland.
i wondered if he was going to bring in coke (vs grandy/cano) in the 8th…
by situationalbuntingapologist on Oct 3, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
That was scary
Max was still okay, IMO. That was a quick trigger for a guy that hadn’t given up a hit until the previous inning. Using Benoit for 2 innings was risky, and it backfired to the extent that Granderson took him deep.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
I think they brought Benoit in at the right time
Haven’t we been screaming that Leyland should start bringing his best leverage pitcher in at the highest leverage point in the game? Tying run at the plate in the 7th inning with nobody out? The move to bring him in was the right one, the decision to leave him in the 8th is the questionable move.
We should be praising Leyland for breaking out of his mold and taking people out of their “defined” rolls in the bullpen and using them when the situation called for it.
by wilsonm24 on Oct 3, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Question
You know how sometimes they wonder how many HRs Miggy would hit if he played for a team in a hitters park (i.e. Ranger Ballpark, Yankee Stadium, Camden Yards)? Am I the only one who reacts by thinking “But I don’t WANT to imagine him playing for those teams!”
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
Valverde just pulled a GuaranSheed on Tigers Live.
He said the series is over.
he's a goofball though
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Sheed always seemed more serious about it though
Valverde? He’s just confident – I don’t think of silly “guarantees” as such a big deal anyway. Just goofy.
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I do
Never jinx it. Always take your opponent seriously and never run your mouth. That leads to bad karma.
I’ve done that more than once in my youth, and every time I got burned. Don’t tempt fate.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
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by David Tokarz on Oct 2, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have been more annoyed by it
If he hadn’t already said he thinks the Tigers will win when asked at some point before the season. He isn’t making a guarantee, he’s just making an offhand comment. The other option would be saying that he thinks the Yankees will win, and no way does he say that.
It fits with his personality. If Cabrera for example started talking about how Detroit is going to win, that would be out of character for him. Easy to dismiss with Valverde because it doesn’t mean he takes the Yankees any less seriously. He knows how tough they are, he respects them, he just isn’t going to quake in fear when he looks them in the eye.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
It worked for Joe Nameth . . .
. . . back in my distant youth.
by rea on Oct 3, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't care
he can say what he wants, as long as he gets the job done
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
They put most of the interviews on their website about 12 hours later
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 2, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Uuuuuuuuuuuugh.
I’m seriously thinking about getting tickets for tomorrow’s game but it’s $30 cheaper for game 4.
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
I didn't even care
This is the only game that kind of fits in with my schedule, so I got the ticket. Not like I spend a lot of money on tickets often.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Tomorrow's closer?
Coke? Can Valverde or Benoit even pitch? I would assume not. JV needs to go at least 7, I’d think
Closer? Pssssssssssh.
Verlander with the perfect game.
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Oct 2, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Will they replay this game at all?
Like, can I catch it on MLB Network? The schedule just shows MLB Tonight, but I saw they replayed Game 1 late last night…
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
If you pay the 5 bucks, you can probably get the archived game on MLB.tv
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 2, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You would think so, but I'm not sure...
I sprung for the POSTSEASON.TV, but I haven’t been able to watch archived games like I could on MLB.TV this season. Perhaps I’m doing it wrong.
I can't say the job Max did after last nite.
he brought his best out there and it helped set the tone for the game.Hurray for Chesterfield,MO for local boy Max Scherzer!
anyone who IS going to the game Monday
We’re meeting at Elwood before the game starting at 5-5:30ish. I’ll be there fairly early, several others will be too, so we can eat something before the game.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I will see if I can make it
There was another meet up attempt announced over there >>>
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Congrats, Max.
No one wanted you pitching in Yankees Stadium with that silly little right field. JV couldn’t bring it home with a win, because of the weather. Fister did not get it done, well as he pitched early. YOU DID IT!!! Now JV and Ricky at home, Fister if necessary in a 5th game (hopefully not necessary).
by knucklescarbone on Oct 2, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
In the 9th innning after Avila slipped
I thought the Tigers Metrodome curse has come to Yankee Stadium
It must have just disappeared
I thought maybe the Lions would catch it, but they won there.
I thought maybe it would move to target field, but it didn’t.
Sometimes, curse just die. Let’s all grieve together.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
An example of how annoying the play-by-play and commentary is on these games:
My friend from out of town (not a baseball fan) asked me around the 8th inning why a bar in Detroit had the Yankee TV station on.
rec'd
though i thought that darling made some good points about max’s mechanics.
by situationalbuntingapologist on Oct 3, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I just realized
I need to get my fall coat, a pair of gloves, and scarf out for the game tomorrow night. And my rain coat just in case.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Cliff Lee is getting touched up by the Cards
I’d love to see the Cards win this series. I almost always pull for the underdogs when my home teams aren’t playing.
That, and the Phillies are the biggest threat of the NL (and they're annoying)
The sooner they’re out, the better
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 2, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What's wrong with the Cardinals?
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 2, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw them, that's what's wrong with them.
I hate their Baseball Heaven crap. I hate Tony LaRussa and they have Nick Punto. In summary: screw them.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
To each his own, I guess
I’m just thinking that eliminating the Phillies would make the National League field weaker. It’s a tactical thing. Plus I’m sick of writers and broadcasters drooling over Halladay and Lee.
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 2, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I want an 06 rematch
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
by David Tokarz on Oct 2, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Seconded
I also want to maybe go to a game in the World Series, a long shot but actually somewhat possible if it is in St. Louis.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
I want a '68 rematch. The Cardinals won in '06 (and '34)
by rea on Oct 3, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You know what I mean
Cards Tigers is a classic WS matchup.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
They're good fans
But they really do let you know it. Not in a mean way like Yankee fans, but in a condescending way. Like “See, we’re SO nice that we’re going to be really passive aggressive about how much BETTER than you we are!”
That said, you can have a reasoned, intelligent baseball discussion with just about any Cardinal fan and not have them be an asshole about it.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Story about Cards fans
I went to a game in Cinci this year. The Reds were playing the Cardinals. I found myself sitting in the same section as about 3 bus loads of Cards fans that had chartered a bus over for the game.
I did not enjoy sitting among the Cardinal fans. I agree completely that they were condescending. They didn’t seem to have one bit of use or respect for fans of other teams (us being Tiger fans and the rest of the stadium being Reds fans.) It’s almost like they were Cardinal fans without being baseball fans (if that makes any sense.)
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I don't know about them not being baseball fans
Because I live around them, I can tell that most of them are. But yeah. It’s pretty ridiculous sometimes how smug they get.
Which game in Cincy did you go to? My buddy and I went to a Cards/Reds game in late July.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
We were there in July also
I think our game was Saturday the 16th. Good game if I had been cheering for the Cards. Carpenter pitched well and Pujols smacked a homer for most of the scoring.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Hey, that was the one I went to!
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Also
I have a Cardinals pocket schedule (I live around STL) and it has little nuggets like this. A free-verse poem, if you will:
“We are Cardinal Nation
We are the 3 million in the stands and the millions more at home
We are a father, a son, and a scorecard
We are peanuts, cracker Jacks, and home runs that break things
We are a porch swing, a summer night, and the crackle of the Mighty KMOX
We are the first team on this side of the Mississppi, and the best fans this side of anywhere!”
And so on. It’s a bit much. I went to a Cardinals/Reds game with a friend of mine and on the way back he asked my why Reds fans gave him such dirty looks.
Him: “How can anyone hate Cardinals fans?! We’re the best fans in baseball!”
Me: “I think you just answered your own question.”
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Anyone find the TBS/TNT contact info...
to complain? Abysmal preparation and performance by the three guys in the booth. Even if you can ignore the bias (Darling works for YES and it really shows), they are just flat wrong way too much for a national broadcast team. Worst performance I’ve seen on that level in years.
I thought Darling worked for SNY
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 2, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This
I believe he’s a Mets commentator, which would actually mean he hates the Yankees. I can tell you that Yankees fans don’t much care for him (or anyone in the TBS booth).
I don't even know what was the deal with all that
Except that I guess they had film left over from the DJ3K event, and were too lazy to work up anything else
Did You Here Them On Jeter's First Hit
They sounded like it was going to be up the ally, then, Silence. Jackson Caught it. I was in the kitchen at the time. I just laughed.
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 2, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They had nothing prepared for Tiger success
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Well
it was supposed to be their day off / travel day. Not much time to prep really, after last nights game.
Do they use the same broadcasters for every Det/NY game? I haven’t paid much attention.
Same 3 guys all along.
They tried to tell me that Ordonez was a stellar outfielder, that Leyland was a classic AL hands-off manager, and that Delmon Young was also a stellar outfielder.
Darling can’t pronounce Verlander’s last name correctly.
Unbelievably bad.
I'm just glad they didn't pay notice to Valverde too much
He was doing some things to the ball, that I’d call questionable.
The first rule of fight club...
The second rule of fight club….
Baseball is like a poker game, nobody wants to quit when he's losing: nobody wants you to quit when you're ahead. ~Jackie Robinson
by LittleLeagueTiger on Oct 3, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I did like
how they said all the Tigers outfielders had good arms. Young, Ordones, and Jackson. I wouldn’t call any of them good, they might be adequate, but hardly good.
Jackson = Below Average
Maggs = Piss Poor
Delmon = Below Average
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Yeah
Maggs has a weak arm for RF, but I would hardly call it piss poor.
His rARM has been positive since he has been with the Tigers, and his Outfield Arm runs above replacement is positive as well. His range is what kills him in the outfield, not his arm.
Actually, looking at defensive metrics on all three on fangraphs (which I will admit I usually don’t look that deeply into defensive metrics outside of UZR and UZR/150) they seem to be average across the board for arm strength.
I think Maggs is average
Jackson strikes me as a notch below average but not awful. Delmon I haven’t seen enough of.
by Kurt Mensching on Oct 3, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Maggs has a very, very accurate arm
but he’s lost some on the throws. What used to be bullets are now more bloopers. He doesn’t hurt you with his arm. Raburn has the best arm, IMO. Casper was awesome.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Jackson has conflicting defensive metrics
One shows him as positive, the other as negative. I don’t know enough about them to say what is right or wrong….
The good ole’ eye ball test says they are all average to below.
yes. tbs announcer are awful. i noticed it too.
they pronounced Benoit, “Ben-oyt”. WTF? lol that annoyed me.
Congrats on the victory
I have to say, when Avila slipped on the on deck circle, I thought that the ghosts of Yankee Stadium were at work again. But, it was not meant to be. Still, a well fought game, worthy of the playoffs, and it’s down to a best of three.
Hopefully tomorrow we will get to see the matchup of aces we were promised in Game 1, and it lives up to expectations. I’m a Yankees fan, but I’ll likely root for the winner of this series to go all the way regardless. I just can’t take Texas or Tampa Bay, and screw the entire National League anyway for making the pitcher hit.
Thanks
That Ghost, Granderson, and Cano had us crapping our pants at the end, if that’s any consolation.
The line for Max is wrong, it says he only went 5 1/3
(unless we are making errors so the Tigers don’t which is cool)
I'm Trill, I'm running w/ the WOLVES
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Oct 2, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
I think it was referring to 5 1/3 of no-hit ball. He went 6+.
by SpartanBoiler on Oct 2, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
right
that’s how long the no hitter lasted.
by Kurt Mensching on Oct 2, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Inge: Cabby "maybe the best Tiger ever already"
He’s amazing and I’m sure Inge is just saying it to pump up his teammate but that statement is crazy. Someone please give a history lesson to Inge ASAP.
The "already" is premature.
But you never know. Miggy is still just a kid. And his numbers are ludicrous.
He stays healthy and motivated, and look out.
I'd say he's probably the best Tiger of my lifetime
But I was born in 1983, so that was after guys like Kaline
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 2, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ty Cobb and Al Kaline would like a word with you in their respective offices.
by playoffbeard on Oct 2, 2011 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hank Greenberg is very frustrated
He wants to know why everyone forgets him.
Alan Trammel and Lou Whittaker aren’t too jazzed either.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
by David Tokarz on Oct 2, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I DON'T FORGET HANK!
My panthenon: Trammell, Whitaker, Greenburg, Bobby Hig… hahaha I can’t even type that last one without laughing.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
I meant no disrespect to the honorable Mr. Greenberg.
by playoffbeard on Oct 2, 2011 11:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I’d say it goes Cobb, Greenberg, Kaline.
by SpartanBoiler on Oct 2, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
Cobb, Greenberg, Kaline, Lou/Tram tie for 4th and then Cabby.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
by David Tokarz on Oct 2, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget the pitchers
Newhouser, Lolich…
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Position players.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
No disrespect to Tram or Lou
But Miggy has them beat hands down from the offensive side of the game.
Defense matters
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
Ty Cobb. Period.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
that's pretty much a given.
I don’t think it’s possible for Miggy to overcome him. Might as well just declare 2nd place the new number one and let everyone else fight for it.
Yeah, I can't think of calling Cabrera the best Tiger ever over the best overall player of all time.
Albert Pujols doesn't play for us
Yet.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
The whole quote makes this a lot better...
“Not to take anything away from guys in the past for the Tigers, because I have more respect for them than anyone,‘’ Inge said. "But you can make a case, if he finishes out his contract and keeps hitting like this, that he’s the best Tiger ever. Heck, he might be now.’’
I don’t know where you got your quote from, but it screams of trying to make drama where there is none.
Inge said "maybe"
and he’s correct. Cabrera has a batting title, a HR title, a RBI title, a World Series Ring (with Marlins), he’s a 6 time All-Star, and he’s only 28 years old.
Comerica Park isn’t a bandbox either. He’d probably average 40-50 HR’s a season if he played at the old Tiger Stadium like those other guys did.
The si.com story didn’t have “maybe,” but I was hoping that it was in there somewhere.
by SpartanBoiler on Oct 2, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going by the quote that you posted above
“maybe the best Tiger ever already”
Yeah, and I posted the quote. I’m an idiot.
by SpartanBoiler on Oct 3, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
and seriously,
If Cabrera played at the old Tiger Stadium, you wouldn’t even be questioning it.
Cabrera would be putting up triple crown type numbers almost every year.
By The Time Kaline Was 28
He was a 9 time All-Star
Won 6 Gold Gloves
Lead the AL in hits once
Won a batting title. I think he is still the youngest player to ever win the Batting Title at age 20.
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 3, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
By The Time Cobb Was 28
He lead the league in:
Runs Scored 4 times
Hits 6 times
Doubles 2 times
Triples 2 times
Home Runs 1 time
RBI’s 4 times
Stolen Bases 4 times
Batting Average 8 times
And a MVP 1 time
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 3, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
By The Time Greenberg Was 28
He lead the league in:
Runs Scored 1 time (144)
Doubles 1 time (63)
Home Runs 2 times (36 & 58)
RBI’s 2 times (170 & 183)
Total Bases 1 time (389)
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 3, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Mere technicalities
But I still agree with Inge. If it’s wrong to think that Cabrera is the best Tiger ever, then I don’t want to right.
He Is Very Very Good
Cabrera is the best Tiger in many years. You have the right to believe what ever you want. We all have a favorite player. My Tiger is Boesch, he is not the greatest, but he is my Tiger.
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 4, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Tony LaRussa just made like his 10th double switch
Makes me really I’m glad we’re in the AL and Leyland can’t get too crazy with that kind of shit.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
I knew there was no reason to doubt our ocularly challenged pitching phenom.
Thank god blue eyed Scherzer showed up…or is the brown eye the good one? At any rate…well done by everyone except Valverde who caused me to go through several pairs of boxers in the span of 20 minutes.
It was Ol Blue Eye today
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
Contributor, Bless You Boys
by David Tokarz on Oct 3, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
What was great about Scherzer today was...
that he was fearless. He challenged hitters inside, even though the ump was calling strikes well off the outside of the plate (at least to the lefties). They kept watching those strikes sail in over the inside of the plate, because they were looking away. And he was not afraid to walk a batter if the count dictated. Did not give in to Cano or Granderson, the two most dangerous Yankees. Just one damn smart pitching perfomance. Kudos to Avila, as well, for a well-called game.
The home plate ump was really bad, by the way, but not so much favoring either side.
by knucklescarbone on Oct 3, 2011 12:13 AM EDT reply actions
Right...Max didn't look scared at all
I remember watching him during the 2nd inning and thinking, “Dude looks cool as the other side of the pillow.” Maybe he can give some tips to JV?
I though JV looked jittery last week, but I don’t expect that today at all. Not after a win, not after he purged it from his system on Friday, and not at home with me screaming at him from the stands. Go Tigers!
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
love maggs as the #2 hitter.
i’m not hearing tiger fans piling the hate on him anymore… (i never gave up on you magglio!)
he’s in the top 3 clutch hitters on our team.
by situationalbuntingapologist on Oct 3, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
Fellas
I know our teams have had our differences this year but give ‘em hell! I’m pulling for you guys! Also, I managed to catch some of the pregame. Miguel Was locked in during BP. Happy to see him launch that one. Now take down CC, you guys got this.
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
Thanks TexWho
I’m still mad at you guys for punting that last series and I’m still pissed that the fanbase on Halo Heaven was so blind to Weaver being out of line on Maggs during the fight.
But you seem all right!
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I'm not mad about the last series
Tampa is playing out of their minds right now. I’m glad we have the Yankees, especially considering that we’re even going into Games 3 & 4 in Detroit.
I'm not mad at the outcome
But I hate seeing teams punt games when it matters for other teams.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Not starting Weaver was frustrating
Even if it did guarantee JV’s triple crown. I could understand if they skipped a Brad Penny-type to give a prospect a start, but what Scoscia did defies logic.
Weaver not starting didn't bother me, but the lineup did.
Kendrick, Torii, Macier were all sitting.
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
That doesn't bother me at all
Let younger guys and others who haven’t played as much get a final game in front of the hometown fans. I’d be willing that a lot of those fans paid for their tickets thinking that they would see Weaver on the mound though.
NOT A GOOD MOVE
valverde :its over:just ask jimmy rollins
I don't think he was serious.
He’s a funny guy, and I hope that the rollercoaster ride is over when he comes out to pitch from now on.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
All caps make things more important!
Not a fan of declarations but I also despise all caps.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
Did anyone Notice....
Valverde in the 9th, fingers to mouth, then they showed a close-up of him wiping his fingers on his sock? I’m thinking to myself, never noticed it before, does he have something there special for k’s? Then strikes out DJ for the 2nd out.
First rule of Fight club...
Also, rain for the fingers on the socks.
Funnier, did you notice the up-close crotch shot TBS showed where Valverde was keeping the ball dry? Hilarious.
Baseball is like a poker game, nobody wants to quit when he's losing: nobody wants you to quit when you're ahead. ~Jackie Robinson
by LittleLeagueTiger on Oct 3, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I think...
I have been on JL’s side all year with regards to Avila batting toward the bottom of the order. It is tiring being a pitcher and saving a couple at bats as well as him not having to deal with the stress (especially because he is still pretty young and in-experienced as a catcher) was probably the right move. I think the time has come though…
Young is annoying me. I never expected him to work 8 pitch AB’s, but I did expect more than 3 pitch (on the high end) AB’s.
Magg’s is no longer the Maggs of 06, but he is still a pure contact hitter that can work a count and put the ball in the general area that he wants it to go.
I think the right thing to do for the playoffs is to move Avila up to 2, drop Maggs to 3 and move DY to 6.
DY almost had a 3-pitch NIGHT.
He swung at the first pitch in his first three AB’s, but fouled off the first pitch of his 3rd AB.
Walking isn’t his game. I’d like to see Avila at #3. I don’t think JL will do it this season, but some roster changes headed into 2012 might make a difference.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I could see Avila in the 3
but I like the added pop that he would bring over Maggs in the 2-hole, kinda like Lou and Tram back in the day.
Gotta get the 3 spot sorted out
and Delmon is particularly ill suited for that role. I believe that JL feels there is already tremendous pressure on Avila with what he has to do behind the plate, preparing for every game with every pitcher and calling the game. Still, he’d be a much better 3 hitter than what we have.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
And I agree with Leyland
The amount of pressure and fatigue that Avila has dealt with this year, it was better for him lower in the order. But we are in playoff time…even if he can’t handle the pressure he couldn’t give us any less than DY is currently giving us (I know he hit the homer, but he has had a lot of one pitch outs as well…). Plus, Avila would be seeing a lot of fastballs in front of Cabrera, that helps ease some of the pressure.
I know it won’t happen, and I usually am not fond of it when people make their fan posts saying what Leyland should do because he knows his teams so much better than we do. I just felt like typing out my thoughts on this one.
Going TV shopping tonight
hopefully I’ll be home and setup before the game starts
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