Tigers-Rangers ALCS schedule released: Expect mid-week afternoon games in Detroit
by BigAl on Oct 7, 2011 2:52 PM EDT
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PrintThe schedule for the upcoming Tigers-Rangers ALCS has been released, via the Dallas Morning News. All times eastern:
Game 1: DET @ TEX Saturday, October 8 FOX 7:30
Game 2: DET @ TEX Sunday, October 9 FOX 7:00
Game 3: TEX @ DET Tuesday, October 11 FOX 7:30
Game 4: TEX @ DET Wednesday, October 12 FOX 4:00
Game 5: TEX @ DET* Thursday, October 13 FOX 4:00
Game 6: DET @ TEX* Saturday, October 15 FOX 7:30
Game 7: DET @ TEX* Sunday, October 16 FOX 8:00
Instead of the newer 2-2-1-1-1 format, the 7 game ALCS is an old school 2-3-2. Which could work out in the Tigers' favor if they can can get a W on the board in games 1 and/or 2.
But the afternoon start times mid-week? I can see that causing some issues for Tigers fans. Looking at the mid-week game times, the ALCS will not be considered MLB's glamor series for TV purposes, especially if the Phillies move on tonight.
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Seriously, MLB?
Die in a volcano. Other sports manage not to play their playoff games when nobody can watch.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
There's a difference
Between “you’ll be tired at work tomorrow” and “you’ll be at work for the first three innings.”
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Earlier times are much better for kids
MLB always messes this up by starting games between 8 and 9 PM. They’re killing the future of the game by not having games end at a reasonable hour for younger fans. 4PM is good – yeah, some people are going to miss the early innings because of work obligations, but be flexible and you can make it work. West coasters deal with it on a regular basis.
not everyone can be flexible at work
And if you have to get off work before you can even pick up the kids from daycare? The kids miss the first three innings too, more if they don’t watch during dinner.
During the regular season is one thing, but the playoffs should be when people in the city can watch it. I don’t mind 10:30 late games because as much as it annoys me, it is a good time for the people actually there.
Ugh.
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I'll be off work...
But, seriously, how ‘bout the Tig’s huh? I still wish they woulda put somethin 2gether 4 Jiminez, but if they can get a couple outa Verli & Fister, I like our chances. The other 2 can be a bit inconsistent, although the last series w/ Texas, they looked good. They need to start hittin like they were a few weeks ago, if u knowe what I mean?
I hope St. Louis and Milwaukee win tonight now
Because these afternoon games suck. TBS’ ratings can DIAV.
I was thinking the same thing. :)
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, media. WHO WILL YOU FAWN OVER NOW, BWAHAHAHA.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Strange, but I'm not going to worry about it
In a push to get the season over by the end of October, they’re doubling up on the games in the LDS and LCS and going to the 2-3-2 format. That takes away a clearer cut home field advantage for the higher seeded team, and cuts down the number of travel days, so one of the games is going to be the afternoon game. There is ZERO chance that if NY was in the LCS that they’d be playing any time other than prime time. It is what it is.
Now the question is: How does the Tiger rotation set up?
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
They've always done 2-3-2
For as long as I can remember.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
The series I remember is the '04 ALCS
That was 2-3-2 because I remember Boston and NYY going back to NY for both games 6 and 7 after 3 in Boston.
They seem to change the format whenever the Tigers win
The 1968 Tigers won the ten team American League and went straight to the World Series. The following season, MLB divided into east and west divisions of six teams each.
The 1984 Tigers won the AL East, beat the Royals in a best of five series, and went on to the World Series. The following season, the LCS became a best of seven series. From that point on, the LCS has kept a 2- 3-2 format.
In 1994, the leagues split into three divisions each and the LDS has used a 2-2-1 format. the Tigers started in the East, but moved to the Central in 1998.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
1987
For some reason Minnesota was given home field advantage even though the Tigers had the better record. That was a crime.
why was that the case?
Didn’t remember that fact at all. Looked it up, and the Tigers were 13 games better than the Twins that year, was it a head to head thing?
Eat 'em up, Tigers!
They rotated, it wasn't based on best record at the time
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
That's such a dumb way to do things
I’m glad they changed it to best record.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
I believe the Tigers won the season series 9 to 3
strictly on memory now, which is iffy, but I believe that was the case
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
thought it was closer than that
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Season Series was 6-3 in favor of Detroit
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So how does the rotation set up?
Is it:
1 – Verlander
2 – Porcello
3 – Scherzer
4 – Fister
5 – Verlander
I would rather not see Porcello pitch in the bandbox in TX. Max might be able to go on Sunday (2 days of rest after 1.1 innings).
Per the Freep
1 Verlander
2 Porcello
3 Fister
4 Scherzer
5 Verlander
6 Porcello
7 Fister
Limiting Scherzer’s work because of his relief appearance last night.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
I like how this is set up
If the teams split in Texas, the Rangers have to deal with Fister/Scherzer/Verlander at the CoPa.
Like Porcello pitching in Texas
But hate that the guy who is clearly the worst pitcher on the staff is going to go twice (potentially) instead of Scherzer.
It's amazing how one series has changed everyone's opinion of Scherzer
Not singling you out, just a general observation.
Not everyone's
I had Max # 3 going in, better to pitch at home and still think the same thing. Would not start him in Texas.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Porcellos on game versus Texas this season
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;ylt=Au7pI5sMgsygXowpOAnUTyFCLcF?gid=310607113
8-1…20 hits for us…amd Purcey pitched 2 shutout innings! (2BB)
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
according to Yahoo (I know they're usually wrong)
they have Scherzer as the game 2 starter atm
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LOL
They got Scherzer versus Holland BOTH Saturday and Sunday!
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
Never mind
I must be still hungover…or euphoric..or both
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
This Sunday, Next Saturday
you were right
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Fettle position in the back corner
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Max is the 2.5/3 guy
He has ace potential but needs to be consistent.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
he's also, what, 26?
Verlander has a couple years on him just experience-wise. Max is a smart cookie – he’ll learn how to be consistent.
I love the fact that Verlander – Fister – Scherzer – Porcello are 28 – 27 – 26 – 22 years old. Nice age range there. :)
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Porcello vs Scherzer
You could make an argument, I suppose, but Max has a pretty clearly superior track record – especially in Comerica.
I'd rather get Max a second start, if necessary
and I would not worry at all about his one inning of work last night.
I’d go Verlander, Fister, Max, Verlander, Fister, Max/Porcello, Verlander
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
That would mean Fister wiould be starting Sunday on 2 days rest
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
I could see possibly
Verlander → Scherzer → Fister → Porcello → Verlander → Scherzer → Fister…
but I dont mind the rotation that looks in place. If Verlander handles business tomorrow, Porcello starting game 2 won’t be as big a deal with Scherzer Fister and Verlander again at home
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That makes a lot of sense
But Leyland won’t do it, he’s too loyal.
If JV wins tomorrow, I can see Kid Rick pitching game 2, because we are set for the three at home. But if (God forbid) we don’t take game one, I think all bets are off and Max should make the start
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
I was thinking the same.
Alternatively, you could attempt to maximize JV’s starts like Tigerdog is thinking:
Verlander → Scherzer → Fister → Verlander → Porcello → Scherzer/Fister → Verlander
Fister would be potentially available in relief in Game 6 on three days rest.
The schedule table is helpful for visualizing these hypotheticals, by the way.
I think Leyland is happy using a 4 man rotation though
and if Verlander goes games 1 & 5, sets him up potentially for a Game 1 WS start
Fan of the Tigers ~ Red Wings ~ Lions - No Better Town to be a sports fan of!
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Leyland would rather fall on a bayoned than to pitch Verlander on three days rest
and of course I strongly disagree with him.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
It still sets up Verlander for a Game 1 WS start
as long as the ALCS is decided before game 7. If it’s not, however, I’d prefer Verlander to start it.
Look at you pushing that schedule table!
It’s not Leyland-like, He won’t switch to a 3-man rotation
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
Good prank Jim!
LOL, nobody in their right mind would start Rick Porcello twice on the road in a 7-game series against the team with the highest OPS of all playoff teams. Way to fool them Jim! Can’t wait to see the real rotation!
Looks good to me
Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 7, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate hate hate this.
There is no reason Scherzer shouldn’t be pitching Game 2 on Sunday. He threw 32 pitches last night. Now Rick has to go twice – and on the road. Sure, Scherzer could relieve in Game 7, but that’s not bringing nearly the value that a start would.
Hate.
FWIW
The mlb.com website has the Thursday game listed at 4:00 but the Wednesday game is TBD.
Jesus, I’m on the west coast, I’m gonna have to take a couple days off work!
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
OK, if I want to watch LEGALLY at my work computer
Do I have any options? MLB.TV is only offering the remaining games on demand in North America, and postseason.tv is only for the TBS National League games.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Like the start times
I work nights and will able to watch all of the games and watch the whole game!
That's really stupid
It kinda sucks that all three home games are on a weekday. I mean, there’s not a lot they can do about that, but it kinda sucks for Tigers fans.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
BUT!
On the plus side, the night games start earlier… no more of this 8:37 p.m. bullshit.
Question though: Didn’t they used to stagger the series so they were never playing both LCS games on the same day? Why did they change it?
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Only 2 off days for travel in each series, they didn't want so many off days
"What I said was: Give me all of the bacon and eggs that you have.." - Ron Swanson
wow
1pm west coast starts midweek. i am screwed!
Oh shiiiiii........
I’m a teacher, and our school’s Parents’ Night is Thursday. Which means I REALLY can’t go to ALCS Game 5, for which I have a ticket.
Sooo…… anyone want to trade for Game 4? I have a 300-level ticket somewhere on the 3B side, and I’ll take anything reasonable in return, straight-up. I figured I’d put this out to the BYB folks first, before I try any of the reselling sites. Contact me at my username here at gmail.
Ah....
I can’t really take a whole day off. That’d look terrible. I’m just going to have to sell the ticket on a resale site.
Harrumph.
Calling BS on that stereotype
Peralta’s the only positional player you can make a case for that being true. Cabrera, Martinez, Ordonez, Santiago — No. If anything, the opposite is true. BS
I agree
These are professional baseball players. Weather doesn’t affect one player any more than it affects another. When it’s hot, it’s hot – when it’s cold, it’s cold. Simple as that.
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by okie for michigan on Oct 7, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Not cool
4 p.m. beats 1 p.m. but it’s still crap that most of us will miss the first 3-5 innings of those games. What the heck is MLB thinking?
But I am happy that the night starts are earlier than the games against NY. Be nice not to have to stay up until midnight to finish the game.
try being me.
I can’t watch 1, 4, or 7 pm starts. Games are either over or basically over by the time I get home.
Uh....what games can you watch?
Those 2:45 a.m. ones?
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
The rotation is set.
Game 1: JV vs. CJ Wilson
Game 2: Rick vs. Derek Holland
Game 3: Fister vs. TBA
Game 4: Max vs. TBA
This is very strange to me.
Washington said he was gonna wait until he knew who they’d play before he’d set his rotation. Now that he knows game 2 is a home game against the Tigers with their right-handed power, he tabs a lefty whose ERA is 1.30 BETTER on the road than home to start game two.
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
Lewis' ERA is much better on the road than at home as well (2+ differential) and I assume he'll pitch Game 3.
Although I think home/away splits are silly, personally.
I guess those stats wash in that home ballpark
but I thought we’d see Lewis in game 2 ‘cause he’s a righty
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
blame FOX
they probably don’t want to preempt The X Factor. How much you wanna bet if one of these games goes long they move it over to FX
Doubtful
X-Factor’s pulling something like a 3.5 rating, while playoff baseball traditionally does something like a 5 to 8 rating nationally. Trust me, they’re selling far more expensive ads against the ALCS than they are against X-Factor, and those advertisers would blow a gasket if they shifted the game to FX.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
They're playing day games on the days when the NL is playing at night
the NL will have day games on both Sundays, when the AL is playing at night, if necessary of course.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
I like the early start the times in Detroit
It can get seriously cold at night this time of the year in Michigan. It can dip down to the 30’s and 40’s here.
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