Magglio Ordonez out for the season
by Kurt Mensching on Oct 9, 2011 7:12 PM EDT
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Reports on Twitter suggest Magglio Ordonez will be out for the rest of the season due to an ankle injury. (Per SabreRoseTiger, Venezuelan writers are calling it an ankle fracture, but this is not yet confirmed.)
Will update this story as necessary.
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The Tigers do not have to decide who will replace Ordonez on the roster until tomorrow. However, Jon Paul Morosi credits a source as saying Toledo outfielder Clete Thomas appears to be the choice if the Tigers use a minor leaguer.
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Ordonez confirmed in an e-mail to MLB.com's Jason Beck his ankle is broken. He felt pain before the game even began. It is the same ankle Ordonez injured in 2010 and had surgery on.
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Speculation as to who gets the call to the playoff roster goes beyond Clete Thomas. MLive's James Schmehl speculates that Detroit could still choose to go with Delmon Young, who was inactive due to an oblique strain, or even Brennan Boesch, who had surgery on his thumb last month. Boesch told the Freep he hoped to be back by the World Series, though Tigers trainer Kevin Rand did not find that likely.
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Gotta wonder if this signals Delmon's return
not trying to be cynical or anything, but an injury to a position player is the only way that Delmon can come back during the ALCS. Oblique injuries, any time I’ve heard of one, seem to take more like weeks or months to recover from, but if it’s not that serious, maybe DY makes a triumphant return to the Tigers. If Magglio is replaced during this series, he can’t come back for the World Series. He could be done in a Tiger uniform, which is sad.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
I just don't see it
I’d love to see DY to return, but ONLY if 100% healthy. I don’t want them to bring him back because they feel like they have to and then see him struggle due to still being hurt.
No longer the Founder, President and CEO of the Ryan Raburn Fan Club
Usually "oblique injury" is one of those phrases that give you the chills like "rotator cuff" or "ACL"
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
This is the tweet where the ankle fracture was reported (Lider is a Venezuelan newspaper)
http://twitter.com/#!/liderendeportes/status/123121330009812993
Basically it translates to “Magglio Ordoñez has confirmed to Manuel Lira [one of the writers] that he has fractured his right ankle and will miss the rest of the year.” I’ve followed Manuel Lira for a few months now and he’s been pretty reliable, but I am still trying to get one or more of the Tigers’ beat writers to confirm this.
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
the spanish language writers seem to me like they're always ahead of things
and generally accurate.
by Kurt Mensching on Oct 9, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny Knobler is now tweeting that it is indeed a fracture
Also says that might be the end of his career.
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 9, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Is guillen done for the year?
I like him, he can hit fifth and play some RF until the 5th or 6th i guess
In mid series, would have to be a position player
Timo???
Rhymes?
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
I know that. I was just being a smart ass.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Loop hole!
Those 50 games are for Triple-A games. This is the MLB playoffs! :)
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Oct 9, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The outfield against a LHP would be Raburn, AJax, and.......?
If not Delmon….
Kelly doesn’t hit lefties at all.
Dirks? .323 .323 .548 .871 in just 31 AB.
Strieby?
Clete is atrocious, IMO, and against a LHP should not be even considered.
The Tigers have options when facing the one righty starter on the Rangers.
If Delmon can go at all, I’d expect that.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
kelly
kelly has been playing great d in right, and just because texas starts a lefty..doesnt mean hes gonna pitch the whole game..i say play kelly, when a rhp out of the pen comes in…let dirks hit for raburn…abrera and vmart MUST step up now
by paul wall 1962 on Oct 9, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind DK starting in the outfield
Raburn-Jackson-Kelly, anyone?
Anyone who is not a Tigers fan is going to be really confused about who the hell these guys are.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
So far, they haven't said anything specific
Just that it’s why Don Kelly pinch-ran for him after the rain delay.
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 9, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I wondered about that move at the time
seemed a bit early for a defensive replacement, and a pinch runner on first base with two outs and the bases loaded?
If this is it for Magglio, what a great person and a great career with the Tigers. Among the greatest Tigers of all time, IMO.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
So *that's* why we saw Donnie a little earlier than normal.
Just think… he may have injured his ankle before the game, must’ve been in a hell of a lot of pain, and still went out there and tried to play on it.
A fractured ankle.
A possibly-career-ending injury.
Shoot, Maggs. You’re my Tiger.
by frisbeepilot on Oct 9, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Raburn-Ajax-Dirks
I’m sorry, but i just don’t see that being a winning combination out there in the outfield. We’re SO close to having a shot at the WS, but I don’t think that trio will get us there
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More from a few of the Venezuelan writers (again, this has not been confirmed by any of the Tigers beat writers)
First, Augusto Cardenas:
Fuentes: Magglio Ordóñez sintió molestias en el 1er turno, ayer. Después de la BB no se sintió bien. Desconoce cómo se produjo la fractura
Translation: “Sources: Magglio Ordoñez felt discomfort in his first at-bat yesterday. After the walk he did not feel good. It’s unknown how the fracture occurred.”
Second, Alfredo Villasmil (in a reply to the above tweet):
Magglio dijo que la fractura fue antes del juego, en las prácticas. “Me dolia, pensaba que era por la presión y la lluvia”.
Translation: Magglio said the fracture happened before the game, during practice. “It hurt, but I thought it was because of the pressure and the rain.”
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
Wow
Making me miss Boesch even more now
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
This probably means that Magglio has played his last game with the Tigers.
I choose to remember him like this.
by Grant E. on Oct 9, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Most Tiger fans do
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Oct 9, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
BREAKING
D Knobler from CBS Sports is reporting Maggs has broken his ankle and he might never play again
Thank you for everything Mags
You were and always will be one my favourite Tigers.
Joshd12
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BA. Recreation and Leisure Studies
by joshd12 on Oct 9, 2011 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
mags
this will probably be the last we see of mags in old english…he’ll be 38 next year, and a free agent …thanks for everything mags, you were the first top end free agent to come to detroit when noone else would come….gonna miss yougood luck sir
by paul wall 1962 on Oct 9, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
dammit
i love maggs. BIG loss. he’s a clutch experienced hitter.
by situationalbuntingapologist on Oct 9, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
No need
There is still plenty of talent on this roster to win it all. Yes, it is a bummer I hate to see Maggs go out this way, but we’ll be fine.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Oct 9, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope we don't lose anyone else
Best of luck in your future endeavors Maggs.
My friends call me Lenny... only I ain't got no friends.
So
Does Jim Leyland just go ahead and put Little Victor in the outfield at this point? I hear he hits switch, so that with his incredibly small strike zone could spell success against Texas’ pitching.
by Bichettehappens on Oct 9, 2011 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
He might hit well enough
"It's 4th and inches and the Giants are going for it. You gotta love sports!"
OR IT JUST MAKES THE SERIES WIN THAT MUCH MORE EPIC
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Poor Magglio
Injuries just sucked the life out of him these past few seasons.
I'll spend the day thinking good thoughts about Maggs.
He was eveybody’s Tiger for a while.
by playoffbeard on Oct 9, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Remember that one time he hit a walk-off?
Me neither….
by playoffbeard on Oct 9, 2011 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually I do, but only because it happened on my birthday
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 9, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright...I do too if I'm honest.
Clete is my wifes favorite. We were eating at BW3 when it happened.
by playoffbeard on Oct 9, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I remember
It was hilarious. :)
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I was in the stands when Clete hit a grand slam against the Angels in 2009.
hopefully we get the same Clete.
Man, this one was dusty...
"Some guy told me I should walk with the Lord. I'd rather walk with the bases loaded" Ken Singleton
by NCDee on Oct 9, 2011 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
someone is rummaging for the old "Song of the South" CD right now.
This whole situation would be hilarious if it wasn’t so catastrophic.
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Yep...my first reaction was anger and to freak out.
….but I refuse to be brought down. The boys will do their best. Injuries happen. It could be worse (see: Ryan Howard and the Phillies).
by playoffbeard on Oct 9, 2011 6:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nothing to do about it
Injuries happen, and sometimes they derail playoffs for a team. Seen it in baseball, seen it in hockey… Unfortunately this year the Tigers are getting hammered by the injury bug.
All they can do is plug in someone who isn’t hurt and do the best they can. If they go down, they will go down fighting.
Still so proud of these guys. Played their asses off and did better than some ever imagined.
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
It's strange how you can get so attached to these players
I’m seriously bummed right now. Not because I’m worrying about who will replace Maggs, but that his career is most likely over. I’ll miss seeing him in the English D.
"I am a part of all that I have met." - Alfred Lord Tennyson via Ernie Harwell
Devestating loss
Unless DY or Guillen can come back, this makes the Tigers lineup so much weaker against LH pitchers. I found it incredibly frustrating that Darren Oliver could come in and pitch to Kelly and Avila, with nothing the Tigers could realistically do about it.
Thomas doesn’t help much since he’s another replacement-level bat to go with Dirks and Kelly.
Blerg. This doesn’t kill the Tiger’s chances but it puts a big dent in them. The pitchers really have to step up now.
With Avila and Peralta reverting to career norms, the Tigers are down to two plus-hitters and Raburn in the what now looks like an incredibly weak lineup. But maybe there’s a hero looming somewhere (Inge?, Santiago?, Jackson?).
Devastating? Not really.
We’re not replacing the Magglio of old. He was merely a shell of his former self. These days Maggs was mostly a singles hitter. He was no longer a good run producer, and his baserunning and defense had deteriorated. Whenever he started, which was mostly against Lefty Pitchers, he’d usually get replaced by the 6th or 7th inning anyway.
What I do like is that our defense will be upgraded tremendously in the outfield. Dirks can all cover a ton more ground than Magglio could. Dirks can hit vs Lefties, if given a chance. He actually had .321 batting average and .871 OPS vs Lefties.
Time for Dirks to shine and show us that he can be an everyday player.
by Keith-Allen on Oct 9, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
^This^ says it all
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Oct 9, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i like dirks a lot
but for some reason he seems to be in jim’s dog house
You have to earn Leyland's trust
That usually takes a while. I don’t think he dislikes Dirks, but I think he just trusts Kelly a lot more.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Sad end for Magglio -
- I was really hoping for one more dramatic home run. I guess it’s that video that TBS keeps showing with that long hair, that smile, and that unforgetable Tiger moment. I know it was highly unlikely but it really would have been a cool way for him to go out.
I wondered if the ball that A Jax dropped should have been Maggs’s to catch. If you re watch the way Magglio approached it seems goofy in that he kind of pulled up. short. Magglio and Austin have had that situation 50 times yet last night it was almost like Magglio couldn’t quite get there and Austin tried to make the play. I know he flat out dropped the ball but it was almost as if he went after it at the last moment. I wonder if the ankle was broken alread
Was that Yankee game really only three nites ago
It seems like a week since we sent them packing. What an awful couple of days for the Tigers.
quite
quite unlikely I think. I think Schmehl was talking out of his butt on it based on Boesch’s hopes.
by Kurt Mensching on Oct 9, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And he hasn't really played baseball over the past month or so
Even if he could come back, we’d be better going with Delmon or Clete
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Oct 9, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like Dirks to start
against both RHP and LHP’s
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
When was the last time Clete played?
Toledo’s season ended around 9/3. If Thomas gets the call, he’s probably more of a defensive replacement for Raburn in LF. I can’t see a month layoff on his mediocre AAA bat being good for his chances at the plate.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Ugh, Clete is awful.
Totally bummed out.
by SweetLouDoubleU on Oct 10, 2011 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
not the end of the world
Plan on Rayburn in left and Kelley in right. If ONE of them gets hot, we will be okay.
Mel
Rayburn and Kelley?
Raburn is in, but I’d prefer Dirks over Kelly, especially against LHP’s.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Dirks Batting .323 Vs. Lefties & .300 Vs. Texas This Summer!
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 10, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Kelly Batted .143 Vs. Texas & .208 Vs. Lefties
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=kellydo01&year=2011&t=b
Let me see, Dirks batting .323 or Kelly .208 Vs. Lefties?
Or:
Dirks batting .300 or Kelly .143 Vs. Texas?
Leyland should do the math.
by TigersFan1957 on Oct 10, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Small sample sizes
Dirks had 10 AB’s against Texas this year… c’mon. you can’t base a decision like that purely on 10 plate appearances.
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Magglio Ordonez Has Given Tigers Fans Many Great Memories
Many of the BYB members may remember I was very much against the Tigers resigning Magglio last spring. He did help the Tiger with his hitting in September & it carried over into the playoffs. Magglio will be greatly missed by all the fans. You gave us many great memories.
Thank You So Very Much,
TigersFan1957
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