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Miguel Cabrera, 3-slot hitter: an over-simplistic number crunching.

Make no mistake: Miguel Cabrera is going to get on base. Whether he bats third, cleanup, or from the on-deck circle, there isn't a force in the 'verse keeping him from first with any hope of consistency; no one in the AL got on base more over the last two years. While we're talking about it, Miguel Cabrera is also going to mash - 30+ HRs in every pro season and top 3 in extra base hits the last 2 seasons running. Debating whether to hit him third or fourth is like deciding whether to have the bananas foster before or after the crème brûlée. It is a first-world problem.

But see, we're really bored.

Using Baseball Reference's team batting splits for last season, we can come up with all sorts of number sets from which to draw incomplete conclusions. The most concrete is the number of plate appearances: the 3-slot had 23 more than cleanup last year, good for about one more HR to bolster Miggy's triple crown chances. More PAs for Miggy beats fewer PAs, right?

Star-divide

Maybe not, if the scoring potential for those PAs is lower. Which it is. Scoring opportunities are higher with runners on base (duh), and having only 2 batters in front of Cabrera reduces the chances of having someone for Miggy to knock in. We can roughly calculate the chances for a 4-slot batter to start the game with at least one baserunner by calculating the probability of having *no* baserunners out of the first three batting slots:

NORUNNERS = (1 - B1OBP) * (1 - B2OBP) * (1 - B3OBP)

Then take the opposite of that probability:

YAYRUNNERS = 1 - NORUNNERS

We can also calculate the chances of baserunners for the 3-slot with the same method, using only the first two batting slot OBPs. (Yes, there are obvious problems with this formula. I told you, it was over-simplistic.) Based on the batting slot OBP numbers from Baseball Reference, here's what the rough 1st inning baserunner probability was for the Tigers last year:

3-SLOT: 53.8% chance of runner(s) on base
4-SLOT: 68.4% chance of runner(s) on base, Cabrera batting

If we instead take Cabrera's production at cleanup and move it to the 3-slot, we get this:

3-SLOT: 53.8% chance of runner(s) on base, Cabrera batting
4-SLOT: 74.5% chance of runner(s) on base, Victor batting

Miggy batting third starts without baserunners in roughly 14.6% more of the total games, while the 4-slot gets slightly more scoring potential for a less-productive bat in Martinez.

Of course, Victor also sees more PAs if everyone moves up one in the order, as would Peralta and Avlia. And there are loads of other considerations, as well. So which is better, batting Cabrera third, fourth, or somewhere else?

Beats me. I just toss out dubiously useful/accurate statistics. You tell me.

Poll
What, then?
Third
57 votes
Fourth
33 votes
Nth
0 votes
bananas foster
8 votes
crème brûlée
10 votes

108 votes | Poll has closed

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Clean-up hitter

He provide too much protection for the 2nd and 3rd hitter.

by Barry2 on Dec 16, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

Other considerations

Miguel doesn’t just drive in the most runs on our team, he scores the most. This is in large part, as you discuss, due to his team leading OBP. The one issue I have with this is that you are setting context, the on-base analysis only applies to the first 2 innings, but you are ignoring the context in which the at-bats actually occur. Taking your numbers, in his first at-bat Miguel currently hits with runner on -base 68.4% of the time, and if he were moved to the 3 spot that number would drop to 58.3%. That leaves 31.6% and 41.7% of at-bats without runners on. These at-bats without runners are not equal. In the current situation, when Miguel’s first at-bat comes with the bases empty, he leads of an inning, in the three spot, he would hit with 2 outs. If we say Miguel plays 160 games at the 4 spot Miguel will lead off the second inning about 51 times while In the 3 hole he will bat with 2 outs and the bases empty 67 times. Miguel is going to get on base almost 45% of the time in either situation. If we assume TangoTiger’s RE charts hold true the run expectancy with 1 on and 2 outs is .117, while the likelihood of scoring with 1 on and no outs is .953. In the current situation Miguel is going to bat with nobody on about 51 times, 23 of those times he will get on base. In 23 innings with a runner on and no-outs we should expect to score almost 23 runs. If Cabrera moves to the 3 spot he will bat with 2 outs and nobody on 67 times, in 67 innnings like that we should expect to score 8 runs.

There are a lot of other factors that effect this, but the difference in contextual hitting is what makes the four a marginally better spot for Miguel than the three. If you really wanted to improve the lineup, Miguel should move to the two spot, or leadoff where he can take full advantage of the additional at bats and not sit in a position where the Run Espectancy is negligible, even if he gets on base. The two or three will never happen though, so the four is the best spot we are going to get.

by rif23 on Dec 16, 2011 8:57 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

It's actually even worse than that

The runner on percentage at the 3-slot last year was 53.8%, not 58.3%. That translates to about 74 games Cabrera would have come up with 2 outs and no one on, not the 67 you suggest.

I’m less certain about the application of TangoTiger’s run expectancy chart here, though, wheich represent league-wide situational averages. If Cabrera is the batter up with 2 out, the run expectancy for that right hand column looks quite a bit different than it does if Martinez is the batter, which in turn is quite different from the numbers actually represented on the chart. The same is true for leading off an inning with the left-most column. But I’d argue that regarding run expectancy, the marginal increase in value over replacement player is greater for Cabrera with 2 outs than when he leads off an inning. Wish I could quantify that.

Still, I’m inclined to agree and vote cleanup.

by lesmanalim on Dec 16, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted cleanup

but it was after I read rif23’s analyis too. And after my head stopped hurting.

by NCTigersFan on Dec 16, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

crème brûlée

Amazing dish that nothing beats.

I agree with rif23 completely though. 4th is better than 3rd, but if I were to optimize the line-up, I’d move Miggy to the 1st or 2nd spot.

by Keith-Allen on Dec 16, 2011 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

there isn’t a force in the ’verse keeping him from first

Also, he can kill you with his bat.

by silveran on Dec 18, 2011 3:03 AM EST reply actions  

All depends on the personel

If you have a Ricky Henderson or Placido Polanco kind of guy ahead of him, 3rd makes more sense. If you have the K King AJax ahead of him, I guess 4th makes better sense, giving another hitter a chance to get on base.

It’s all in context. I’d prefer to see him get more ABs. A Solo HR is better than a man on base and the #3 hitter GIDP.

by H2OPoloPunk on Dec 18, 2011 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

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