Tigers rumors: Dotel, Ramirez, Polanco, Buehrle (updated)
by Kurt Mensching on Dec 5, 2011 3:54 PM EST
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PrintDay 1 of the Winter Meetings, and we don't really know anything new about the Tigers. But we do have a couple of updates/confirmations of stories we've already heard.
Sunday night, Fox Sports' Jon Paul Morosi reported there are no serious talks between the Tigers and third baseman Aramis Ramirez. Today, MLB.com's Jason Beck followed that up with a confirmation.
Beck also updates us that Octavio Dotel has confirmed the Tigers' earlier interest in him.
Update 12:45:
Ken Rosenthal (on Twitter) mentioned the Phillies are trying to move former Tiger Placido Polanco.
Update 3:45
Earlier this afternoon Jon Paul Morosi reported the Tigers and Mark Buehrle will probably not happen. (Twitter)
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Is Dotel still starting games, or is he a relief pitcher nowadays?
I’ve seen his name, but I don’t recall his situation.
Free Placido Polanco!
Heh. Winter Meetings are the best part of the off-season. Let the rumors fly!
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oh wow...
you would include the polanco rumors… ;)
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Dec 5, 2011 1:29 PM EST reply actions
polanco
I wouldn’t mind as a last resort and before the great platoons in place….of course giving up minimal talent in return.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/phillies-actively-shopping-placido-polanco.html
by tigerstripes_4life on Dec 5, 2011 2:13 PM EST reply actions
Cale Iorg
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good thinking....oh and some big league chew if they call our bluff!
by tigerstripes_4life on Dec 5, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Inge
I wouldnt wanna pay Polanco 6.5 mil… His power is gone and so are his wheels…but id gladdy give em inge straight up
by Wolverine119 on Dec 5, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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That iso is ridiculous last year…& the Inge thing was a joke…however..if we strike out on prado,headley,callaspo etc..or the price tag in terms of prospects is to high..philly would pick up some of that salary…& polanco @ 3rd sounds better than Inge / kelly to me
by Wolverine119 on Dec 6, 2011 1:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good idea, but Iorg is injured
Torn labrum, had surgery, probably toast for 2012.
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Polanco, 6.5M due in 2012, buyout due in 2013.
He could be a decent option for a year at either 2B or 3B. I’d want him back at 2B so we can put Raburn back in the OF mix and put Santigo in the rest of the IF mix.
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Correct me if I'm wrong
But if the Tigers did acquire Polanco, wouldn’t that be the end of Inge in Detroit?
by TartanElk on Dec 5, 2011 2:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I see what you did there.
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Breaking News:
Insider sources confirm: If a trade for a 3B does happen Tigers lock up Brandon Inge in the basement of Comerica Park and throw out the key into the Detroit River.
Why is everyone....
…assuming they will keep Raburn? I can’t be the only one who is tired of the the 1/2 a season wonder? They should release Inge,and why oh why have they asked their fans to endure another year of Lardo Gerald Laird?! Should,heaven forbid!, Avila have to go on the DL at some point, then that guy would be in the line up everyday! Agh!
Laird's defense means we could probably survive by letting him start for a short stretch
But let’s be honest. If Avila goes down, we’re boned.
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Agreed. Most teams are boned when a stud goes down, regardless of position.
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by Brand New Hero on Dec 5, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't know we were supposed to have All Star backups at each position.
Name a team that has a GOOD backup catcher.
The Yankees. That’s it. And Jesus Montero will probably be a DH for them at some point if his defense doesn’t develop.
Laird is a great backup catcher, this has already been discussed. And if something happens to Avila, the Tigers will look elsewhere for help at that position, I’d guess.
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by Brand New Hero on Dec 5, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
"Name a team that has a GOOD backup catcher."
Well, us, before his knees gave out.
by rea on Dec 6, 2011 6:27 AM EST up reply actions
There's a chance he'd be able to come back if his knees get better and Avila goes down, right?
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Hmmm... I wonder. I'd just assumed V-Marts catching days were over.
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by Brand New Hero on Dec 6, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
I think you're right, but if Avila goes down you have to think that Leyland would give that a shot
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though finding a replacement that can come close to replicating either is easier at 1st than Catcher
by jonathan.onne on Dec 6, 2011 5:46 AM EST up reply actions
That depends on how good Avila is next year
If he continues to be the beast that he was this season, then you are correct. If he drops off, the opposite may be true.
Very true, although I hope he maintains his "beast mode".
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by Brand New Hero on Dec 6, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
but, if Avila drops off, knock on wood, it doesnt matter as much if he goes to the DL
sorry i’m being a dick, I know what you’re trying to say
by jonathan.onne on Dec 6, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Trade rumors is saying tigers have interest in daniel Murphy and mets have interest in dirks, I can see lots of tears on this site if we trade dirks I know byb loves it some 4th outfielders… Anyone know anything about Murphy?
by syper17 on Dec 5, 2011 3:26 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Placido Polanco?
Do not want.
I just hate his offensive game so much. He’d be a pretty big upgrade defensively, sure, but I don’t know if it’d be worth it. With an aging player — and this could be completely unfounded, so correct me if I’m wrong — it might not take much for the range to fall.
If that happens, which obviously shouldn’t be considered likely I don’t think, then he holds very little value, if any at all.
Another one.....
From MLBTR:
The Tigers, Blue Jays, and Padres inquired on Mets infielder Daniel Murphy, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Sherman adds that the Mets like the Tigers’ Andy Dirks as a potential center field alternative to Angel Pagan.
Murphy, 26, hit .320/.362/.448 in 423 plate appearances while playing first base, second base, and third base this year.
Murphy played more OF than anything until 2011, and more first base than second or third in 2011, but his defensive numbers at 3B aren’t bad for a small sample.
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It'll cost us Dirks and pitching, probably
Not a Smyly/Oliver level arm, but a guy like Bruce Rondon might get it done.
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yes, please
He’s like Don Kelly, but good.
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by rock n rye on Dec 5, 2011 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He can get on base at second or third
I like it
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Donnie's good, in my book
every successful team needs players like him and Ramon
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As your starting 3B and 2B against righties?
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don't get me wrong I like Mr. Wizard
I like him on the bench though, not as a starter
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by rock n rye on Dec 5, 2011 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't Mets move him out of 3B at A ball with his .919 fielding pct
I think Mets did some showcasing.
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That is all.
can't tell if this is serious or not
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Hard to say, really.
I dunno, I’d like to see him back here.
by frisbeepilot on Dec 5, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Zing
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Whew...
I saw Ramirez in the header and thought for a second that the Tigers were linked to Manny. Heart rate returning to normal.
from MLBTR earlier today
The agent for soon-to-be free agent center fielder Yoenis Cespedes is telling teams he’ll require twice what fellow Cuban defector Aroldis Chapman received, tweets ESPNBoston’s Gordon Edes. That is, $60MM.
Don’t think it will get that high…. but that’s quite the asking price. I don’t think we’ll be willing to pony up that much to sign him, nor would I want us to.
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That was his agent talking
not actually Cespedes himself. He’s just trying to drive up the price.
right... I absolutely understand that.
but that’s an even higher starting point than I had initially thought (and heard).
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It's like Jimmy Rollins saying he wants a five year deal
or Reyes talking about “Carl Crawford money”
They all ask for the moon and stars at first
On the flip side, we’ve got DD and Leyland giving us this BS about how they’d be happy with these inadequate platoons at 2B and 3B, and how one of these AAAA pitchers is going to be in the rotation. They’re low balling us, like they do every year and the media is perfectly willing to play along with them.
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all I'm saying is if he's starting at double Chapman
and comes down from that… say to slightly more or even the same amount Chapman got. That’s still quite a bit of money to commit to an unknown talent.
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But it's still only money
That would be the only investment. No giving up players, draft picks, etc. Just money. Taking the chance on Cespedes panning out is well worth the risk that he doesn’t.
Thankfully, I doubt anyone would go that high...
Cespedes is intriguing, but I think that’s just his agent putting out a starting point from which teams can negotiate down.
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Oh thank God
Link, so I can stop the chatter?
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Platoon at 2B is and potentially in LFare cheap, Tigers lost close 30 million in 2009 and 2010
Remember Mr.I is worth 1.5 billion in asset not in cash. He not going to sell part of Little C to help the Tigers. Tigers are one of the most in debted teams in the MLB. Tigers have someday soon stand on their own two feet. One thing in our favour is that Mr.I companies it is privately own and not a public traded company. Therefore, Mr I can do what he wants with his profits.
Having a higher number of pizza franchises when he goes off to the great dugout in the sky isn't Mikey's objective now
A chunk of the debt that the Tigers have is stadium debt and that is coming down every year. They need butts in seats, more than anything. If you build a winner…. people will come.
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You don't even have to build a winner
2008 proved that. You just need to build expectations. And it won’t take much to do that this offseason, just a couple of moderately significant signings/trades will build off the anticipation from last years run.
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