Tigs Town: Tigers Emerge as Front-runner for Cespedes
Mark Anderson quotes MLB scouts on the Tigers' interest in OF Yoenis Cespedes:
"They’ve been around him as much or more than any other team," said a scout in the Dominican Republic. "It seems like every time there are teams there to see him, the Tigers are right there in front."
In his latest Detroit News column, Lynn Henning confirms the Tigers believe Cespedes is a big-time player in the making.
"The Tigers will make their most energized pitch ever for an international athlete."
It will take north of $30 million to sign Cespedes, who has all the tools, but isn't a sure thing. Is it a risk the Tigers should take?
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yes.
this guy is very good. If we spent money on Dontrelle Willis, Jerrod Washburn, big fat contract for Carlos Guillen..we might as well spend on him.
I am sure he can run faster than Delmon Young.
Cespedes has to be the most intriguing player liked to the Tigers so far this off season
For one thing, the new CBA pretty much put an end to spending big on international free agents, other than those that come through the posting system from Japan. The posting fee alone could be $ 50 million for Yu Darvish, and the Tigers aren’t going there. Cespedes is a rare exception to the new spending limits on international players and draft choices. This is a club’s last shot to get around those rules, and we know that the Tigers like getting around Selig’s slotting rules.
No telling whether he will fill an immediate need in Detroit, or whether he has to start out in the minors. But he can’t possibly hit any worse than Brandon Inge, or field worse than Delmon or Raburn!
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I'm conflicted on this
I have a feeling the guy is going to be good. The power/speed combo would be ideal for a corner OF spot.
But man…. that sure is a huge investment and risk on a relatively unknown talent. If he ends up not panning out, that’s a huge contract to get stuck with.
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I think he might immediately add an impact
With his power, defensive, and baserunning. Alexei Ramirez made the jump straight to the majors.
At worst he’s Cameron Maybin (which isn’t bad). At best, he’s like Sammy Sosa ( that’s who his his swing reminds me of)
but would you spend that much on Maybin?
I’d think not. and you can’t even say with certainty that would be him at his worst.
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Maybin hasn't reached his prime yet
He’s still just 24 years old. In 2 years, he’d probably be well worth the $50 Million / 6 year investment.
but Cespedes isn't 21
I don’t think the 2 are as comparable as you guys are making it out to seem.
the questions about his real age worry me a bit too
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I would
He was worth 4.7 WAR last year (most of that value was defensive, though).
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I like the Maybin comparison
Let’s say that Maybin signs prior to 2008, at the peak of his hype for a 6yr/50M contract (which might be a good estimate of Cespedes). Average annual salary is about 8.3M.
Looking back, the first three years of the deal absolutely stink. Maybin generated a combined WAR of roughly 2.5 (depending on source). The fourth year of the contract (2011) is probably worth the AAV. Now, he’s got two years to make up about 25-30M worth of value. I think it’s entirely possible with what he showed last year. It might not be as easy to do in San Diego, but it’s still possible. Even if he doesn’t make up the entire value of the contract, I bet he gets pretty close to being only a minor bust under those terms. So, even though Maybin might not end up being worth a 6yr/50M contract that he hypothetically signed in 2008, I don’t think that the signing team (if they kept him for the entire contract) would feel like they wasted 50M…more like getting 35-40M worth for 50M spent.
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And if that's the worst case...
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by David Tokarz on Dec 7, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
It isn't often
you get the chance to sign an impact player entering his prime. If our scouting department thinks this guy is the real deal I hope DD goes all in.
We've blown $10m per year on worse
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Tigers don't need to take the risk at this point
They won the division very easily last year and they are the favourites to win this year. I rather spend millions on leftover in the free agents or at trading deadline.
But don't we?
We don’t won’t to be the Twins and sit on our division championship caliber teams only to get bounced from the playoffs year after year and have our window go buy. At some point in the near future we do need to take a risk regarding a free agent/trade.
Your going spend 40m on a maybe
He might be a MLB player he might be a star or he could be AAAA player. We don’t know for sure. If you are going to spend 40m get a known commodity.
He'll be better than some players making $100+ million
To the scouts, he is a known commodity.
His power is real. His athleticism is real. His defense is real. His speed is real. The only real question is he going to be a .270 hitter or a .300 hitter. It might take him a season or two to reach his max potential.
I’m so glad we didn’t break the bank on Crawford or Jason Werth last season. We can spend 33% less of what those guys will be making, and actually get a younger and better player.
But he already 26 year old, not like he is 21
You have find high price players that have work out such Verlander and Miggy. But good example because free agency is probably 50% success rate.
Do you think Ichiro Suzuki was a big risk too?
11 years ago, Seattle gave this unproven, 27 year old player a 3 year contract that cost them $26 Million ($13 M posting fee + $13M for salary).
Ichiro went straight to the majors and won Rookie of the Year and MVP. Seattle won 116 games on top of that.
Just because Cespedes is an unknown, it doesn’t mean that isn’t a commodity.
Correction: Ichiro got $14 M / 3 years.
So Seattle spend $27 Million total to get him. That cost them, on average, $9 Million per season.
Cespedes will probably get a 5 or 6 year deal for $45 to 60 Million. That would cost the team, on average, about $9 Million a year.
Are you comparing apples to oranges?
I thought is suppose to be a power dude.
Yeah but a greta player is a great player
You don’t know what you’re going to get, but you also can’t win if you don’t play.
The contract covers his prime athletic years
If we’re talking 5-6yrs for a 26 year old, I don’t mind that a bit.
That being said, his true performance prime may be delayed by the adjustment to MLB. I would expect his best numbers in 2 or 3 years…not at age 27 like most players.
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Age Fabrication Assumption
Sorry but what are you questioning his age off of? Have you read any articles that mention this or are you assuming that because he’s latino he’s lying? If you are then it’s racist and on top of that it’s wrong. Cuba has the best (or close to it) medical system in the Caribbean. It’s hard to fabricate your age when there is a decent medical system in place. Most the time age fabrication comes from FA players (like Cespedes) but when they are 15 or 16 trying to earn a contract not at 26!
Sorry if I hit a nerve...
but I have been reading questions about his age on various sites, nothing concrete and nothing definitive, otherwise I would have added a link.
I don’t know what Cuba’s medical system has to do with baseball players lying about their age, if you don’t show them a birth certificate, or if you have even the least amount of money and get a fake one it isn’t hard to lie about your age. But this is often a question of any athlete out of any third world country. Last I checked we don’t get a lot of foreign baseball players out of third world countries like Zimbabwe…we get of them from third world countries in Latin America. I don’t know how stating that is racist. What did you mean that “age fabrication usually come from FA players (like Cespedes)” do you mean FA Latin players? Are you racist?!! Why did you have to mention his name? Why isn’t it FA players (like Darvish)?
Age fabrication comes about when guys in their 30’s want to appear younger so they get a guaranteed multi-year deal when they are well passed or getting close to the end of their prime playing days. Have you not seen the questions for Albert not producing his birth cert yet holding up offers for his new contract?
What?
So some random bloggers mention incorrectly that a Cuban player might have doctored his age and you give credence to it because he’s Cuban?
You don’t doctor your age when your 30 and it’s impossible to do it when there is a birth certificate. Cuba has good medical facilities and thus doctoring the age of a player is nearly impossible unless he changes his name with a younger individual or changes the birth certificate. Questioning without proof on the basis of ethnicity is racist. I have no idea what your point is about Zimbabwe. My point is that 1) you mentioned age fabrication with no proof and I’m sure if he wasn’t Hispanic this wouldn’t be the case and 2) not only did you do that but you did so knowing absolutely nothing about Cuba because if you did know something about Cuba beyond gross generalizations you’d see why it’s very unlikely that a Cuban athlete could fabricate their age.
Your final paragraph is total shit. When a player is 31 and wants a new contract they can’t just say they are two years younger then they are. That NEVER happens. Pujols can’t go to St. Louis and be like nah I’m 27, really. When they are teenagers is when age fabrication occurs. Often it’s so that older players can compete in youth competitions with a set age limit (Yi Jianlin in basketball, Danny Almonte, Dong Fangxio/Kim Gwang-Suk in gymnastics, 1989 Nigerian U-20 soccer team) or so they can appear younger to scouts and earn a contract to a MLB team or get a larger payday (Furcal, Tejada, Nunez). It’s not that they decide one day to be 29 again.
And no I have heard absolutely nothing on Albert Pujols not getting his contract because of age questions besides one Miami Hearld article which was overwhelmingly disproven by Yahoo. Pujols went to HS and College in the US and needed valid documentation to become a citizen. Do you know of another article that has made a couple good points or are these just random postings on a blog?
Just in case you don’t believe me….
Read this
One of the unexpected consequences of the increased diligence of national security agencies in the wake of the 9/11 attacks was the large number of baseball players whose visa documents were found to be fraudulent. Latin American players, it turned out, had been falsifying their ages, claiming that they were younger than was actually the case.
Wait…did I read that right? People actually claiming to be younger than they were? But…but..but you said people don’t do that!
Before the tests, prospects could get away with presenting other peoples’ birth records as their own.
Wait a minute!!! how can this be! You just assured me that this can’t happen!!
Here is another obviously false news reports stating the same thing!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/sports/baseball/22dna.html
Here is one about a cuban prospect specifically doing this…it obviously can’t be true since you tell me it is impossible to do so! Of course I am a little confused, at one point you tell me that I shouldn’t listen to random blog posts and then you tell me I should listen to you, random blog poster…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/baseball/mlb/07/13/cuban.player/index.html
And about Albert and that wonderful story you have “debunking” any controversy… So he lists three reasons, only one actually talking about about how old he is, and the strongest case is that he went to high school and college in the US? So nothing to prove that his birth certificate he came to the US with was actually his, or any DNA testing to prove that? So he doesn’t actually offer any proof to debunk it, just random comments about how this attitude from Miami fans won’t win them a WS, what does the Miami fan base attitude have to do with Alberts age?
1) THEY DON’T CHANGE THEIR AGE AT 30! THAT WAS MY POINT. I didn’t say nobody lies about their age, I actually gave you plenty of historical examples of players that do. NYT had an article that 1 in 5 Chinese players lie. My point is nobody changes their age once they’re over 19 or 20. Pujols can’t go to LAA saying he’s really only 29. Nobody would believe him since he was already 29 at STL. Only players that are unknown can effectively change their age. That doesn’t mean they then can’t be successful, just that they don’t do it after becoming successful.
I didn’t say it was impossible for Cuban’s, you clearly have a reading comprehension problem. I said it’s unlikely and assuming that he does have age issues purely because he’s hispanic is racist especially when it’s much more difficult to do so as a Cuban. He isn’t saying he’s 19 or 20 when a year or two makes a big difference. In the mid-20’s a year or two makes little difference so I don’t think Cespedes has any incentive to lie about his age.
Any proof that Albert isn’t the age he says he is? Or are you assuming once again that because he’s hispanic he must be lying about age? Do you question any player when he’s drafted about their age or just the Hispanic FAs?
You're right they don't change their age when they are 30
And I never said that Pujols was trying to say he is 29… I said that people are saying he may actually be close to 34/35 than 32 that he is claiming he is….you know like he lied about his age a while ago… Tell me where I said he said he was 29.
Well since you were basing your whole argument that he couldn’t have lied about his age because he is from Cuba, I showed that it is still possible that he could be lying about his age. I also never said he WAS lying about his age, I said people are saying he is lying about his age. Talk about a problem with reading comprehension.
Also, where did I say that only Latin players lie about their age? In baseball the vast majority of people that have been caught lying about their age, especially since DNA testing started coming around, have been Latin american players trying to say they are younger than they are. I am sorry you think that the statistics are racist….get over it. The board mods are pretty quick to jump on racist comments on this board…I haven’t had anything telling me to back off so I am assuming it is just you being overly sensitive for whatever messed up reason you have.
Again, I am sorry you don’t like the stats and research that has shown that the majority of players lying about their age to come play in the MLB are Latin American players. I am sorry that you are to short sighted to realize that stating this fact does not make a person racist. I am sorry you are so bitter at your life that you felt the need to attack me for saying what others are saying. Hopefully, someday you will get over whatever hate you have in your heart, lord knows I have already gotten over your hate. Enjoy the rest of your day.
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Then we should never draft a player in the first couple rounds either because we might spend a lot of money on an unknown commodity.
The nice thing about spending money on free agents is that the Tigers are only gambling on money. They aren’t losing money and prospects making a big deal.
Seems like the time you COULD take a risk...
The team won 95 games, has a better team on opening day (full season of Fister, hopefully better 5th starter, better bullpen with Coke there all year), so why not take a risk (though this guy seems like the real deal)?
by MakeItTrizzle on Dec 6, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Beware of the injury bug
What separates a good team from an average team is the amount of injuries you have. I think Indians ran across a lot injuries last year. So if the injury bug occurs you have the financial resources to get a player as we did with Young for Boesch. The next injury bug could be a pitcher or an infielder. This guy might become a star but the Tigers are playoff contender and we need to fine tune the club not go for an adventure.
Yes
If worse comes to worse, we trade him and get a Miguel Cabrera type player :)
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you said what now?
I don’t see that happening if worse comes to worse…
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Pretty sure he's joking
RE: Maybin and Miller for Cabrera and Willis
This would be a huge lift for the left field.
According to Lynne Henning the left field at Comerica is a center field by itself and they need power legs. YC definitely has those legs.
If we add him we become an instant ALCS contender.
we might be already without him...
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There is no such thing as a "sure thing"
….but I think it’’s worth the gamble. I don’t know about you, but thinking about Delmon Young try and play left field for 162 games makes me lose sleep. This guy could be great, and we’ve got cash in the payroll for it. Roll the dice.
Let’s start thinking of a nickname for this guy.
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
Do it!
Risk is a part of every signing. For Cespedes, I would rather regret doing it than regret NOT doing it. That’s pretty much my philosophy on anything.
As a fan
of course I want them to go for it. Most exciting prospect since Maybin, maybe even Gibson.
I've hit the wall
Talking about players the Tigers “might” sign.
Full on discussions about players who will never sniff a Tiger uni. Somebody wake me up when DD does something. Untill then … I have no opinion.
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by Singledigit on Dec 6, 2011 7:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
yea im starting to feel that way too
it’s been much worse than in years past, IMO. last year was jayson werth and carl crawford, but this year there have just been so many little rumors.. it’s getting irritating
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This is one of my favorite parts of the year.
That being Winter Meetings. It’s not just the Tigers that I follow. I try to keep up on everyone.
Pujols possibly going to Miami is monumental.
The Hot Stove coverage on the MLB Network has been great this year.
It won’t be long before the off-season becomes a snooze-fest though.
It's definitely one of my favorite times of year, too
some of the rosterbation can get excessive, though; that’s all I meant to say.
Pujols to Miami would be downright insane. That team would be serious World Series contenders if he flies south
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Maybe LeBron could throw a few innings
by manic in Detroit on Dec 6, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes Please
This is actually what I’ve been hoping for all off-season. I didn’t think Hanley would be moved unless he demanded it but it’s possible that the Marlins decide to move him for payroll reasons (as well as character reasons) if they add a 200M contract.
The other day I was talking to a friend who works at Baseball Prospectus (and is a Marlins fan) what it’d take for the Tigers to get Hanely (without moving Turner) and we came up with this: Ramirez for Castellanos, Fields, Young, Below and Oliver. Hanley would jump into the #3 spot for Detroit and could play SS or 3rd. Since Florida err rather Miami likes to make trades with Detroit I could actually see us making a deal if Miami decides to move him that is.
Of course the whole Problem
is he is upset about playing 3B in Miami, why would he be happier playing it in Detroit?
And with your counter of Peralta moving to 3B I say..
His whole decline in Cleveland came about when they moved him to 3B when he didn’t want to play there. His move to Detroit (and back to SS) coincide with his resurgence as a player.
So in closing, I agree with your idea of trading for a player we don’t have a position for and gutting our farm system in the process…err wait no I don’t.
I agree on "no" to Hanley for the farm
I disagree on 3B having a profound affect on Peralta’s bat. What’s the cause and effect in somebody playing a different position affecting their performance at the plate. Catcher and Pitcher, I can understand. Other positions, not so much. I think the Peralta, 3B / SS, batting statistics triad is really just coincidence.
Maybe I’m being egocentric here and just thinking about the way I’d handle things, but I have no idea how being unhappy about my position change would affect my hitting.
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I think that is the major issue in the situation though
How well do you perform at work when you aren’t happy with what you are doing? Most people tend to be distracted and not put in as much effort if they are not happy/content with their roll. With the amount of concentration and focus required while batting even the slightest distraction could affect how well you perform. If you are generally disgruntled and unhappy I don’t think the focus and will to perform up to your abilities is there.
I don’t know much about Jhonny’s personality, he seems like a good teammate but that could just be because he is in a situation in Detroit that he is happy with (contending team, playing a position that he wants to play) but something changed that turned him from a 260-280 hitter with 20HR in Cleveland to a 230 10HR guy back to a 260-280 20HR guy when he got back to Detroit. It could just be the change in scenery, or it could be being back in his natural position where he feels more comfortable. I tend to think it is him being back at SS.
Or
He coulda been in a funk for a year.
I won’t buy this unless I hear it from Peralta’s mouth.
Michael Young moves around every damn year and still rakes.
Robin Yount moved from SS to CF and still raked.
Babe Ruth….(well, that’s getting a little crazy).
One beer says that if Hanley moves to 3B this year, he’ll still rake.
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look at his totals
2009 and 2010 are Peralta’s worst offensive years. He averaged around 250/315/380 with a HR average of 13. He also averaged around 900 innings at 3B those years and 350 innings at SS.
Every other year he is around a 275/340/455 with a HR average of 20.4. He averaged around 1250 innings at SS those years, and had one year where he played 9 innings at 3B.
I only looked at his 2005-2011 since that is when he started playing regularly.
He did have one bad year (2006) offensively at SS that was factored in to his totals, but that was also his sophomore season so you can look at it as a sophomore slump or just a bad year, it doesn’t really matter.
It isn’t one bad year, it was two, and it was a distinct deviation from how his career line was trending. Unhappy employee’s do not perform as well as happy employee’s. Maybe Michael Young doesn’t mind playing multiple positions and is just happy to play the games, maybe Robin Yount was the same. I don’t know. Something severely affected Peralta’s offensive game, the easiest way to figure out what a problem is to determine what changed from before there was a problem until there was a problem and then change it back. Peralata was a good young hitter before moving over to third. He was an average hitter after moving to third. He was a good hitter after moving away from third. What changed?
It does appear that somehow 3B affects his bat
There’s certainly correlation, but I’m just not buying that there’s causation. You present a good argument here, but I just don’t buy it. I can’t use the unhappy employee parallel because we’re dealing with baseball players. See ball, hit ball, sulk about position the rest of the time.
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See ball, hit ball, sulk about position the rest of the time.
Nice ;)
He could have just been unhappy in Cleveland (it is Ohio, who wouldn’t be unbelievably depressed there), or maybe it is like you said and he was just in an offensive funk. I would just want to make damn sure what that problem was before I moved my all star SS from his position by signing another SS for multi-years and big bucks.
Would you take Nolasco and Sanchez over Fister and Scherzer?
Because those guys are 2/3, not 3/4 or 4/5.
No.
IN the mix with Scherzer and Porcello, though.
They’ll have to get more pitching, IMO. Sounds like Hanley is outta there.
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If Pujols goes to Miami
that should tie up most of their money, unless they really are owned by drug lords.
by manic in Detroit on Dec 6, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Get it done
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The money making angle
I’ll agree that Cespedes would be a Cuban draw to the ballpark. In theory, he’d recoup some cash at the gates. Here is something to consider, though.
With Miami building a new park, the place will be full for a year or two, regardless of the team’s performance or the number of Cuban superstars on the team. They don’t need Cespedes to fill the joint in 2012 or 2013. There won’t be walk-up tickets waiting at the gates for Cuban-Americans that want to see Cespedes.
When the new-park novelty wears off in 2014, the team will need to fill the place in other ways. They’ll either need to win (which may or may not work) or do things like draw that Cuban crowd. Cespedes will help the gates in 2014 if and only if he’s not a disappointment at that point. And I believe he’s strongly at risk of being a disappointment based on hype. While I think he’ll be a good ballplayer, and I think he’s worth signing for the right price, will the Cuban fans flock to the park in 2014 to see a player that’s just putting up Andrew McCutchen numbers instead of Carlos Gonzales numbers? Maybe…it’s hard to predict. (Note: As a Tiger fan, I’d be really happy with McCutchen-like production from Cespedes in 2014 and I think that’s a fair expectation.)
So, I believe you’re right that Miami is a player here. I believe they’ll offer a nice contract unless they sign another big name and max their budget on another 15M+ annual salary. I’m not 100% sure that they consider his Cuban draw potential as big of a factor as some are making it out to be.
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agree with your points here
but teams make more money of merchandise than ticket sales, so having Cespedes and/or other star players means jersey sales, hat sales, etc. from day 1, on top of the full stadium for the first year or two.
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by Mark in Chicago on Dec 7, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Please, DD, get it done.
I’ll give you a hug…
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Dec 6, 2011 8:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
i think i really want them to sign him no matter the cost
the only thing making me pause is the small chance i want them to just to have something to think/talk about this winter. probably not the best reason to make these types of decisions.
This is an interesting possibility
I like Cespedes’ potential, but does Detroit really need another outfielder? My main questions are where would we put Cespedes, who would Cespedes replace, and what would happen to them? First, CF is locked up, but what about the corner OF? Would Raburn play more 2B, and Cespedes, Boesch, and Delmon split games in RF/LF? Would DD trade the extra OF to fill another hole?
All in all, this potential outfield depth of AJax, Cespedes, Boesch, Delmon, Raburn, Kelley, and Dirks isn’t a bad problem to have.
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Most likely Young, unless some club blew them away with an offer for AJax
Or Cespedes could start in AAA.
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Or Boesch
could get us an infielder that we actually want and need.
by manic in Detroit on Dec 6, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think anyone is safe
DD probably isn’t afraid to trade any of our outfielders, since he was willing to trade Granderson, Maybin, Joyce, and Wells. That’s a very nice group of outfielders right there.
Curtis was the only one starting at the time, and that was a unique financial situation
Only way Boesch is trade is if the Tigers have lost faith in his future, or if some GM gives them full value for a middle of the order bat guy.
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Tokarz is wetting himself.
But to be fair, I am too after what I’ve read. This dude is for real and would fit in nicely with the Latin influence the Tigers clubhouse has. Me likey…
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Not really "wetting", per se
I’m debating whether or not to compose a Cespedes dance. Similar to a rain dance, but more geared toward signing really good Cuban free agents.
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by David Tokarz on Dec 6, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Would a celebratory dance be appropriate?
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by David Tokarz on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
As long as part of your dance involves
Sacrificing a pig and roasting it over an open pit. I’d be down with that.
Boesch, Cespedes, and Jackson???
I don’t think I could dream of a better outfield combo.
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Ty Cobb, Al Kaline and Austin Jackson
Guy can dream, can’t he?
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by David Tokarz on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
If you're going to dream, improve!
Cobb, Kaline and either Phillips or Lemon!
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
I want to see what Cobb would do playing next to an African American
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by David Tokarz on Dec 7, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bingo
Justin can now let the fungus grow back on his shower shoes.
Thats the exact reason he sharpened his cleats.
Speculation isn’t exactly needed.
Tired of generic music??? Exterminate All Rational Thought is here to help!
One famous baseball writer . . .
. . . claims the 1915 Tigers outfield of Cobb, Crawford and Veach was the best in history. They were basically 1-2-3 in the league in offensive stats (none of them hit a lot of HRs, but it ws the deadball era), as well as all being tremendous defensive players.
by rea on Dec 7, 2011 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
I am all for getting Cespedes
especially if it means we can deal Young.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions
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