Morning Prowl: Charlie Furbush, Carlos Guillen, Clete Thomas
by Kurt Mensching on Feb 24, 2011 6:00 AM EST
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PrintHey! Guess what? The Tigers open the exhibition season Friday (!!) against Florida Southern. But until then, here's some links from Lakeland and beyond, as I try to make a concerted effort to bring more news from the division rivals into the Morning Prowl.
Beck's Blog: Leyland: I'm not old school
Jim Leyland's soliloquy.
Tigers left-hander Charlie Furbush took unusual path to camp | tigers.com: News
Beck with a nice profile on Furbush, who rose from a Division 3 college in Maine to being on the verge of making his major league debut this season.
Tigers.com: Knee soreness part of process for Guillen
Jason Beck with a quick note about Guillen's sore knee.
DetNews: Tigers' Clete Thomas A-OK after tedious rehab with CPM
Tom Gage tells about what Thomas went through in rehabbing after microfracture surgery.
Freep: Tigers prospect Jacob Turner shines for brass
Leyland doesn't want to get carried away but it's hard not to.
BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Rankings: Top 100 Prospects: 2011
Speaking of Turner, three Tigers made the cut for Baseball America's top 100 prosects: At 87., Andy Oliver; at 65. Nick Castellanos; and at 21. Jacob Turner. I was a bit surprised to see Oliver on the list but we'll certainly take it. Heck there were years you were happy to see any Tiger ranked, let alone three of them.
Fox Sports Detroit: Clete Thomas ready to avoid injury bug this season
Hidden gem in the notes section: Verlander will take on Porcello any time, any where. On th golf course, where he'll even give him three strokes handicap.
Tigers Scorecard: A Quick Chat with Tigers RHP Prospect Zach Simons
Sox Drawer: Williams says no to Pujols, 'insanity'
Is this even news? The White Sox don't want a player that almost certainly won't be available to them. (h/t South Side Hit Girl)
StarTribune.com: Mauer: 'A bigger deal than it really is' | StarTribune.com
Sounds like Joe Mauer would have preferred if his manager never mentioned the injection in his knee Tuesday.
Nick's Twins Blog: Protecting Mauer
Nick Nelson writes about steps the Twins could take to keep their best asset on the field.
SBNation.com: Twins' Pavano Gets Nod Over Liriano For Opening Day
Carl Pavano will be the opening day starter.
Twinkie Town: The Infield of the Future?
After so many Twins infielders departed over the past offseason and made room for a new set of players, Twinkie Town wonders if the newest version is the infield of the future.
Beyond the Box Score: I Like the Way You WERC It: An Intermediate Step into the DIPS Theory
Two Tigers bloggers, Lee Panas and Mike Rogers, team up in looking for a new stat that falls between FIP and ERA. Rogers writes the story but it's built on the work of Panas. (Both appear in the Tigers Annual!)
Beyond the Box Score: Charting Pitching Components, 2008-2010
Speaking of sabermetrics, here's some work on looking at the run values of certain pitching events.
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Mauer
I wonder how long it takes Minnesota to move Mauer to DH or 1st base (making Morneau DH). There’s no way a guy his size with knee issues plays an entire MLB career at catcher. Here’s hoping both the M&M boys aren’t 100% this year. I’d love nothing more than to see them finish 3rd. Well, last would be even better of course, but Cleveland and KC couldn’t even win a division if the league kicked them down into AAA ball.
You could just hope for them to finish in 3rd with a fully healthy roster
Don’t really see the need to wish injuries on guys.
by ozymandius1024 on Feb 24, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not really wishing injury, just a little lingering soreness! Honestly, I don’t see how else they’d finish that low. Hell, the Twins are the only team in baseball who never seem to be affected when their stars go down anyway. I swear those asshats could run out an entire squad of AAA guys and still win the damn division.
Don't tempt them
Gardy will do it just to prove a point.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I don't know...
Personally, I don’t really have a problem with people being relieved by injuries to rivals. Pretending not to be relieved that Mauer and Morneau aren’t 100% would just be an exercise in dishonesty. As human beings, I wish them nothing but the best. As the two best players on a division rival, the less the Tigers have to face them this year, the better. Besides, whether or not we wish them ill is pretty irrelevant. All the wishing in the world won’t stop the universe from doing whatever it wants.
Am I right that there’s a subtle line here, or am I just a jerk? The latter is certainly not outside the realm of possibility.
I think there's a subtle line
I’d rather see them finish 3rd with a healthy roster, but I’m not going to feel sorry for them if Mauer or Morneau miss any significant time, provided that the injury isn’t life threatening.
You're honest, I'll give you that...
My sense of accomplishment would be greater if we beat the “real” Twinkies, but I’m not losing sleep over the M&M injuries either.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
every team has injuries
I’m going to go so far as wish the Twinkies the same luck everyone else has.
Of course the past two years they lost their MVP first baseman and won the division. So maybe I should wish them better health and see what happens.
by Kurt Mensching on Feb 24, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
That would be a good sign
They’d have to be out of the race to unload their bast starter, IMO.
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
Kenny Williams
One of the biggest reasons I love seeing the White Sox lose
"I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food" - Ron Swanson
by rock n rye on Feb 24, 2011 9:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd love to see Dunn lose the ability to hit fastballs
and Rios regress to his latter days in Toronto- which he did in the second half of 2010.
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
If he doesn't think Pujols is worth $30 million
How does he explain how much he paid Adam Dunn?
so by that math
Dunn is worth something around 2mil per year less than Pujols. Methinks I could find 2mil a year for that particular upgrade.
The time for reckoning has come, and we already have the answer
I stand corrected.
1 mil a year.
Calc 3, differential equations: no biggie.
division? Uh-oh.
The time for reckoning has come, and we already have the answer
I think you need to check your math again...
4 years/56 mil = 14mil per year
30 mil/year – 14mil/year = 16mil/year.
HUGE difference between their contracts…
by wilsonm24 on Feb 24, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah I got there.
I read it as 2yr-30mil.
Whoops.
The time for reckoning has come, and we already have the answer
I say a little pray everytime Verlander has a injury free practice or outing
How horrific would it be to lose your Ace just as spring training started, VIA Wainwright. STAY HEALTHY BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was excited to see three Tiger prospects on the BA Top 100 list too, but...
that was tempered by seeing NINE Royals on the same list, with FIVE in the top 20 and THREE in the top 10. I know that several of those names were added after the Greinke trade, but if the Tigers want to win the AL Central they should do so sooner vice later.
"All aboard! There is plenty of room."
Brennan Boesch Bandwagon Conductor
honestly I wouldn't worry that much
not all prospects are going to pan out. Lord knows the Alex Gordon hype was insane and he’s done little to live up to it. It happens to prospects all the time. On top of that, the Tigers can just cancel out the Royals’ prospects by spending money, and they already have a solid rotation going into the future. Sure the Royals might finally see what .500 looks like again but it’s way too early to worry.
by Kurt Mensching on Feb 24, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
And they still have Dayton Moore as their GM
Even if absolutely everything pans out for KC like it did for Tampa, he would need to make some excellent moves to supplement all the homegrown talent. He hasn’t to this point, and I have a very hard time believing he can just turn it on like a switch.
That said, Brian Sabean managed to win a World Series, so you never know.
by ozymandius1024 on Feb 24, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
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