Pitching, hitting and defense, oh my: All systems fail in Tigers' loss
by Kurt Mensching on Apr 27, 2011 10:35 PM EDT
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88 pitches. That's how many Erik Bedard needed to throw seven innings while allowing just five hits and no walks.
KEY PLAY
I dunno. The home run by Justin Smoak in the first inning was really the big difference in this game but it didn't feel real key coming in the first inning.
KEY THOUGHTS
Uhm. It's probably not a good sign when this is the game we thought the Tigers had a great shot at winning. The ace on the mound for the good guys and the score is what?! Obviously all ten runs weren't his fault. He only gave up four. Not that four is good, but the flat bats -- and obviously the pitching of Bedard -- were as big a story as Verlander was.
What's amazing -- and disappointing -- is that in Verlander's six starts the team has managed to lose four games.
Did I mention the Tigers managed to commit four errors in a game again this year?
Daniel Schlereth was a one-man highlight reel -- for good reasons. He picked off Chone Figgins to begin, then got Milton Bradley out when the comebacker was deflected toward first. Schlereth managed to get to it and shovel pass to first to get the out. Pretty cool. Here's the highlight.
Al Alburquerque struck out the side in the eighth, so that was pretty cool too.
Let's hope Brad Penny is on his game tomorrow so the Tigers can -- gulp -- avoid being swept at home.
Baseball. ::shrug::
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Brad Thomas is awful.
Free Scott Sizemore*!
*with purchase of a Scott Sizemore of equal or lesser value.
He's awful at pitching.
He’s fantastic at uniting a fanbase.
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Apr 27, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
We need WTF Thomas T-shirts.
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Apr 27, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I have decided to start throwing a baseball left-handed
I’m 35 years old and right-handed. I’m not athletic and I haven’t been good at baseball for nearly 20 years. I doubt that I’d be able to hit even 50mph on the radar gun. Nor would I develop a curve, slider, screwball, or any other off-pitch. (Come to think of it, my typically 47mph offerings would probably count as a change-up, so I wouldn’t even have a #1 for the catcher to offer. Every pitch would be two fingers down behind the plate…yep, another change up.)
Despite all of these shortcomings, there’s no reason why the Tigers shouldn’t pay me league minimum if they continue to insult and spit upon their fan base by running Brad Thomas out to pitch in major league baseball games.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I don't know much about other languages
BUT…I believe in native Australian, the word for terrible is Brad-Thomas.
"If I ever find a pitcher who has heat, a good curve, and a slider, I might seriously consider marrying him, or at least proposing."
— Sparky Anderson
Thomas has allowed a .432 on base average to opponents, and a .571 slugging percentage
He has a 10.80 ERA and a 2.28 WHIP
He needs to go.
We won’t be grilled again!
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Small sample size!
HA! Got you! Thomas is awful.
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Yeah he is
Take a look at his career numbers.
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Apr 27, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay
Totally off-topic, but (hopefully) a mood improver. We could use it…
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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Singlio Magglio has just one extra base hit this season. One double in 54 AB’s, no triples, no homers, and just one RBI. We need Maggs to get it going.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Yeah
That’s problematic. I’m not even sure if he’s hitting the ball hard this year.
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Apr 27, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, he hasn't had many at bats and his ankle looks like it is still bothering him.
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I know it came at a meaningless point in the game...
but that’s two games in a row where Raburn has made the most awkward looking defensive play I’ve ever seen. My goodness…I don’t ever remember a second baseman looking that awful on a routine play.
Too bad they don’t have anyone else to play 2B…oh wait they do have someone but he’s only hitting .400 in Toledo right now, definitely not good enough for our rock solid lineup.
It's not time to panic just yet.....
but when it is, I’d consider
Call up Sizemore for Rhymes
Call up Furbush for Thomas
Call up Dirks for AJax
Call up Oliver, Coke to the pen, Thomas to Siberia
Trade Peralta, Iorg, Nunez, and Worth for Jose Reyes
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Furbush needs to start
He’d fill in for Penny if need be.
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Apr 28, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I get the feeling he'll never get the chance to solidify a spot in the rotation
With Verlander, Porcello, Scherzer, Coke, Turner, Oliver, Crosby, and maybe more, a move to the pen may be his only ticket to the show, at least long term. Same goes for Wilk and most other starters on the Tiger farm.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Okay
Lets break that down.
Rotation as it is: Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Penny, Coke
So you want to move Coke to the bullpen and replace him with Oliver. Now lets say something happens to Penny. Who replaces him? Furbush or Turner. And what if we need a spot starter? Whomever of Furbush and Turner doesn’t win Penny’s spot.
Seriously, so much can go wrong. Don’t shunt players off into the ‘pen unless you absolutely have to, or you really think they can make that much of an immediate improvement. For the record, Furbush is homer prone, so he’ll piss a lot of people off coming out of the bullpen.
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Apr 28, 2011 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus, a trade is a-comin
The Tigers have too many near-mlb SP to not make a deal.
I realize that lots of things can go wrong, but this team could benefit greatly from a July trade. Our current surplus is SP, which is always in demand. Moving Furbush to the ’pen would take away one of our best current trade chips.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Yeah
I can see Furbush going in a trade for an OF bat.
Maybe a package built around Charlie Furbush for a guy like Carlos Beltran?
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Apr 28, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That might be interesting
I’m not sure we’ll need the OF bat. As long as Boesch doesn’t regress much below a .270 hitter with extra base power, I think Maggs or Raburn will start to hit enough so that OF isn’t our need.
It wouldn’t be popular, but getting a productive 3B (like Aramis Ramirez) at the deadline would help. Getting a productive SS (Reyes) would also be huge. Both would probably require much more than Furbush.
A new need will arise by July. It always does.
Another thing I could see happening is a trade that might move one of the almost-there guys (like Furbush, Wilk, Below maybe) for a couple of less-developed, high-ceiling guys. I think you’d agree that we don’t have many “blue-chippers” in the organization (aside from Turner) below Toledo. Crosby is down there, but with plenty of question marks. Smyly might have MLB potential, but I really don’t see a lot of guys at Erie, Lakeland, or W.Mich that look like they’ll be effective at Toledo in a couple of years, let alone Detroit.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
They wouldn't accept that trade without Cale I...
Damn it, you beat me to it. Make them take Brad Thomas!
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Now is the time to sent AJax and Rhymes to the minors.
Take the pressure off them and send them to Toledo.Give Sizemore a shot at second and bring up Dirks.Leave the starting rotation the way it is for now.Get rid of Thomas and give someone a shot in the bullpen.
Agree
I would add that after a month of baseball, the Tigers are playing .500. It’s time for all those optimistic projections to be revised downward.
by watsonstclair on Apr 28, 2011 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Optimistic Projections??
The Indians are not for real. No way, no how. The Royals are on their way to last place like they should be, and the Twins/Tigers/Sox (if they can get it together) will battle for the Central title.
A division title is still VERY realistic. Hell, I’m optimistic that we’ll finish a few games over, win the Central, and head to the playoffs, but those are very realistic expectations.
It’s a loooong season. Let’s let it play out a bit more.
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
by Brand New Hero on Apr 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
man....
just when you think they have it figured out after handing the sox their asses, they get clown suits put on them by the lowly mariners……effing baseball.
DETROIT RED WINGS – "war were declared"
AJax
Not ready to ship him to the minors yet, but a week or two on the bench with Casper Wells starting and AJax as a defensive replacement might not be a bad idea
Sitting him on the bench won't help much,
he needs to fix something. You can’t do that from the bench, you need to face real pitching, just like Max and Rick needed to face real hitters in Toledo last year.
"What does a momma bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? - NO CUBS!" - Harry Caray
by 77bestrookieclassever on Apr 28, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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