Verlander leads Tigers to first place at the All-Star Break
KEY STAT
8 shutout innings. OK, it was actually 7 2/3 innings and one run allowed. But Justin Verlander should have gotten through eight shutout innings if Brandon Inge hadn't air-mailed the third out in the 8th.
KEY PLAY
After leading off the bottom of the ninth with a double, Eric Hosmer attempted to steal third base. He represented the game-tying run. Alex Avila and Brandon Inge made sure to send him back to the dugout when Avila caught Hosmer stealing.
KEY STANDINGS
KEY THOUGHTS
First place at the all-star break! Not too shabby. The team could definitely be more consistent. The rotation could be better. The bullpen could be better. The lineups could be better. Whatever. None of that really matters. The Tigers played 37 games in 38 days and they clawed their way into first place at the break. That's pretty tough. We'll take it.
12 wins, 2.15 ERA for Justin Verlander at the break. Sure, Verlander is not eligible to pitch in the All-Star Break. But he is starting the first game for the Tigers after it. Isn't that preferable with the way he's throwing this year?
Tigers announcer Dan Dickerson tweeted this:
For Verlander, he becomes just 2nd pitcher in #Tigers history to make 9 st. starts of 7+IP, allowing 2ER or fewer, matching Newhouser (1945)
The game-winning run was driven in by Magglio Ordonez, by the way. That came in the sixth inning, scoring Casper Wells for his second time in the game. Ordonez has hit safely in 12 of his last 15 games, by the way. He's batting .276 during that time period.
Brandon Inge really is hurting the club by playing. He's not going to bench himself. He believes in his abilities, but that's like believing Harry Potter is real. Wait. It's like believing you are Harry Potter. The Tigers have to find a third baseman for the second-half run.
In case you like factoids, the Tigers were last in first place at the break in 2009: up 3 1/2 on the White Sox. In 2007, Detroit was up 1 on the Indians. And 2006, Detroit was up 2 on Chicago. I hesitate to even provide this information because it's probably just an invitation for the nattering nabobs to show up. But, you know what? The club is in first place.I remember the lean decade and a half. So, damn it, I'm going to enjoy it. Besides, the team has got to win the division one of these years. Why not this one?
OK. Four days off. Enjoy the break. We'll finally catch up on that giant gaping hole in analysis, so check back here frequently all week.
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Whoaaa!
Harry Potter isn’t real? Kurt…I curse you…
leyland has to be a leader
and sit inge
loyalty to obviously bad players isn’t helping anyone
be a man leyland or dumbo and make this inge issue go away…
Austin Jackson can fly
Rod Allen said so
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Tiger dog who would you play at third.
Or would you try to trade for someone when we need a starter first.
Kelly/ Worth until a trade is made to upgrade the position
Trading for an infielder should not prevent DD from getting a starting pitcher. I don’t expect a big acquisition for the infield, but Inge is killing this team game after game. They walked Avila to get to him today. JL doesn’t even have the stones to pinch hit for him and make them pay for that move, yet he put Kelly in the OF to replace Maggs the next inning.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Kuroda, Wandy Rodriguez, Anibal Sanchez, possibly Ted Lily
as the sellers and buyers become clearer, the list will grow
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
How about a trade with the Dodgers
We would get Kuroda and Blake and not have to give up our top prospects.
Maybe
Biggest obstacle with Kuroda is he has a full no trade clause, and was reportedly ready to go back to Japan if the Dodgers didn’t resign him. He may not want to move. Casey is probably available. He has a club option for 6 mil next year with a 1.25 mil buyout and LA may like to dump that.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
I kinda like that
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by David Tokarz on Jul 10, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Key phrase of the day: Nattering nabobs
They can natter all they like, 1st is 1st.
Most of the remaining games are against the Central and this team has played well in their own division. They can really start to take care of business against Chicago after the break. I am still ticking the 80 box in the poll and I see no reason to stop.
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by murrajo on Jul 10, 2011 7:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Spiro, is that you?
Channeling Agnew with “Nattering nabobs” (of Negativism, if I recall) . . .
inge has to go! why is he starting? please leyland platoon 3b if you have to! i could stand him not hitting beacuse of his defense but now he doesnt even have that.if we have to wait for an upgrade at the deadline or god forbid free agency give me a platoon at 3b.
by tigerfaninboston on Jul 10, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
Inge
Do us all a favor and just walk away. Career is all but over.
I, too, remember the lean decade and a half
so this is enjoyable. Obviously, it doesn’t mean anything, but it sure beats the hell out of being in last. For all the grief Leyland gets, I’m thankful to he and Dombrowski—I know they’ve made some bad moves—for bringing a culture of competitiveness and winning these last 6 years. They sure aren’t perfect, but think back to what it was like following the Tigers in the 1990s and early 2000s.
I’m hopeful that they’ll do something about Inge, but JL is pretty old school and tends to give veterans like Inge a really, really long leash. We may just have to suffer through this for a while.
by (The)BallDontLie on Jul 10, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
Great win!
Being in 1st place at the break speaks volumes of all the talent we have.
It sure felt good watching this team come together and rise to the top.
False dilemma
The choice isn’t between Brandon Inge and Chone Figgins, but between all the third baseman. Ever.
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by David Tokarz on Jul 10, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, maybe not ever
But definitely alive.
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by David Tokarz on Jul 10, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Seattle had the good sense...
To bench Figgins though. He’s only had 9 AB’s this month and has played like 4 out of the last 12 or 13 games for them.
Well...
Obviously Figgins is playing worse right now, but I’d be a lot less surprised to see him return to being an average player. His BABIP is .208. .208! For a guy with his speed (even if he has lost a step or five), that is absurdly unlucky. He is also 2 seasons removed from a 7 WAR year.
Inge hasn’t been a league-average hitter for a full season since 2004 and you could generously call him sub-par in the field right now.
They’re both bad and I wouldn’t want them on my team, but at least one of them was really really good recently.
by thepartybird on Jul 10, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
During the game thread, someone (jokingly?) asked:
Does Inge have more errors than hits since his return? The answer: no, but close. 4 hits, 3 errors since he came off the DL for a robust .093 average.
I hate Jonathon Ericsson.
Inge has watched Eckstein too long
Now he thinks baseball is just about heart and grit and not about being good at baseball.
It kills me — I love Inge as a Tiger, but he’s just sucking like QA at the hose factory. If we have to let him go, they should definitely give him one of those goldbricking jobs in the front office, maybe in charge of player charity coordination or something, but it’s getting to the point where we’d be better off if someone convinced him that it was his scrappy vision that the Mudhens needed in order to finally take the pennant there.
I wonder if he’s holding on because he thinks that the Tigers are WS contenders and that this could be the year he gets his ring. If he thinks he’s the best option for third, he must think that the Tigers are a WS lock.
Not only is Inge not very good at baseball, he's completely delusional.
Anybody see his comments about bad luck on BABIP? Something about everyone else getting 24 hoppers through the infield and he’s not getting anything to fall.
His .248 clip is lower than his career average, but I don’t think that’s his biggest problem. Now the .508 OPS and the 25+% k rate…those are real problems.
We shouldn't worry about 3B,
when Carlos Guillen comes back, all our problems will be solved and everyone will be happy again. LOL.
Raburn will be moved to 3B and Guillen will play 2B.
Pretty sure he's being sarcastic
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by David Tokarz on Jul 11, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Are we having an open-thread for the ASG and HR Derby?
Also a fan of the Rays and Lightning.
There is no offseason.
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by Tigers&WingsFan on Jul 10, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
If Kurt or Alli don't make one I'll put something up
by Rob Rogacki on Jul 10, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
A meet up thread would be cool also
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Make that one a fanpost
Then have everyone rec it so it stays at the top of the page longer.
by Rob Rogacki on Jul 10, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
On ESPN
a Buster Olney insider article ranks the toughest second half schedules. Tigers have the easiest schedule of all contending teams, with only 23 of 70 remaining games against teams over .500. So that’s pretty good news, no?
Also interesting
12 of those 23 games are against the Indians, 4 are against the Rays, 4 against the Angels, 3 against the Rangers,
Yes
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by David Tokarz on Jul 11, 2011 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Other side to that
We have 13 games left against the Twins, who are 24-12 since the beginning of June.
they're also 24-15 since 3 days before the beginning of june
when the tigers swept them
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 11, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've heard some minor buzz...
on Aramis Ramirez of the Cubs.
Big contract, but it’s up this year (team option for 12). The Cubs need money to chase Pujols or Fielder in the offseason.
Seems like a reach, but maybe a name to look out for in the next couple of weeks. Ramirez isn’t Inge defensively, but he’s a reliable bat that would make the lineup look pretty frightening, especially against left handed pitching.
Whether the replacement comes from the inside or outside, I think we’ve seen the beginning of the end of Inge. You just can’t put him out there anymore, and his knees eliminate him from his old utility role, which Kelly now does better anyway.
Oy.
Just saw that Ramirez’s agent said that his client will not likely rescind his no-trade clause.
Guess we can forget that one.
Jerk
Ramirez, that is. Who the hell would want to live in Chicago?
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by David Tokarz on Jul 11, 2011 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Irony?
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
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by David Tokarz on Jul 11, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was about to say...
"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke
Contributor, Bless You Boys
by David Tokarz on Jul 11, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I vote Don Kelly for 3rd baseman
He’s not necessarily hitting the crap out of the ball but he produces a timely hit every now and then and has shown he’s capable defensively at the position.
Back off man, I'm a scientist
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I'd rather not have him there full-time.
He’s too valuable in his utility role. Plus, there’s no way his average will hold up with daily at-bats. He’s not much of an offensive improvement from Inge in that situation.
I would rather platoon Kelly and Worth if we can’t acquire a full-time replacement.
Oh I don't believe he's the everyday option there
Maybe two or three games in a row then plug in Worth
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He's more valuable at 3B over Inge.
Splitting time with Worth but Don’s versatility also means he can be plugged in at other positions if need for defensive boost.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
3rd base
tigers better get off there butt and go out and get a 3rd baseman .i know the tigers do not like cutting ties with a player but Inge is killing this team.he makes some good playes but you can not use that to justify keeping him in the lineup .he has made our starters work harder with his bad playes.the man came up as a catcher and that fell apart with him.he played 3rd good for some time not anymore.if tigers think the all star break will help him they better think again.time to let him go Dave.this from someone that has played some baseball.good luck with him.
Again.....
As long as the myriods of delusional fans keep buying Inge’s jersies and whatnot, he wont be traded. Although he is killing the team on the field, he is making the Tigers big money through merchandising/revenue.
President of the "Bring back Neifi Perez" fan club.
All this talk of Inge...
We’ve neglected to adequately comment that Justin Verlander is a very bad man.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Verlander is a monster.
I try my best to catch all of his starts, okay I try my best to watch as many Tiger games as possible.
Avila is awesome.
I just had to throw that out there. Even though he’s slumping a bit at the plate the last week or so, he’s still working counts and hitting the ball hard. He was robbed of extra bases on a sweet diving play just the other day. So glad he’s starting in the ASG.
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
Problems, yes, but reasons for optimism
While the Tigers’ defence and pitching problems were on display in KC, we still won 3 of 4 (w/o our starting CF) and still managed to regain 1st place after 37 games in 38 days. That in itself is a good indicator of this team’s heart. The ASG break couldn’t have come at a better time; unlike last year, when the break was like a bucket of ice water on a hot team, three days rest will help a lot of guys (including Austin Jackson).
A couple of other reasons to expect a better second half than usual in the Leyland era: We’re only 2 games under on the road, we’re done with Boston and the Yankees, and have only 4 games left on the west coast (against the A’s). We start the 2nd half with 5 at home (unlike last year’s road trip to oblivion), and we’re 18-8 in our own division. And whether by design or necessity, Leyland has managed to use his bench and give the starters enough time off that they should have some gas in the tank for the stretch. I think we can win the division as currently constructed, but will need to do something at the deadline to go farther.
One last point – Ordonez is coming around offensively, and my be back to his usual numbers by the end of the season. If he is back to his old self, keep Boesch in LF, and think of batting Mags in the 2 spot. So we have: Jackson/Ordonez/Boesch/Cabrera/Martinez/Peralta/Avila, and whoever’s at 2nd and 3rd that night. We match up with anyone 1-7 with that line up… Whaddya think?

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