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Jacob Turner called up by Detroit: Jon Heyman report

Futures Game participant Jacob Turner will not be pitching in Erie tomorrow night. This much we know. SI's Jon Heyman reports that he is getting called up by Detroit.

Late breaking news on the Twitters: SI's Jon Heyman reported last night (around 1:45 in the morning) that bigtime Tigers pitching prospect Jacob Turner was getting the call to the major leagues. Given that Duane Below is the probable starter tomorrow, Turner is most likely going to take his place in the rotation. Jason Beck followed up at about 2:05, saying that Turner was not with the Tigers, but that he was not pitching for Erie either.

A refresher course on Turner: his fastball sits in the low to mid 90's (think 92-94) and touches 96 on a regular basis. Turner's best secondary offering is a 12-6 curve that looks to be a potential plus pitch in the major leagues, and he also features a changeup that could become an above average pitch as well. His command is advanced for his age. While the scouting reports all look good, Turner still needs to polish his entire game.

This year, Turner has put up a FIP of 3.90 and an ERA of 3.48 at AA Erie. His strikeout to walk ratio, at 90 K's to 32 BB's in just under 115 innings, is good, but he only strikes batters out at a rate of about 19%. That isn't the dominant strikeout rate most people would expect of a top prospect, but it still isn't horrible. There are, however, concerns about his readiness, which are warranted. It is important to remember, that despite the praise that has been heaped upon him, Jacob Turner is a 20 year old who has never pitched an inning above AA ball. 

Based on the information available, there are essentially two options as to what happens to Turner now. Either Turner will take Below's spot in the rotation on Wednesday, as Heyman indicated in his original tweet, or the Tigers are very close on a major trade that will send Turner away from the organization. The plot thickens, but we'll know more tomorrow morning.  

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All we know is that he's not starting for Erie tomorrow.

That led us to believe he was called up, but he might have been traded too.

by crc33 on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

See what Al said below

Initial reports said he was called up. Beck can’t confirm anything other than he’s not in Erie.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no!

Noooooooooooo!

I have a grand idea: let's win a game.

by 13194013 on Jul 30, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's going to be a VERY interesting weekend.

It’s confirmed Turner’s not in Erie. Jon Heyman of SI says Turner’s been called up. MLB’s Jason Beck tried to follow up on Heyman’s info, but was stonewalled. Beck says the Tigers aren’t talking, period.

So Turner is either in the rotation or about to be traded.

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad I decided to check BYB one last time before bed

Did not expect this. Can’t wait to see what happens

I quit smoking but would go through the whole ordeal again to have a cigarette with Jim Leyland

by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 3:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Why would they rush him through the minors just so he could be a middle relief patch?

I quit smoking but would go through the whole ordeal again to have a cigarette with Jim Leyland

by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure that was a joke...

And a good one, at that. :)

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by Brand New Hero on Jul 30, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Assuming he’s not traded, I’m not too happy with this.

From a selfish standpoint of someone who’s going tomorrow, it will be cool to see Turner’s debut. HOWEVER, once again this seems like a bad idea to rush the kid.

Additionally, this will be yet another example of the franchise giving up on a kid who could have some use for us (Rhymes, Sizemore, Furbush, and now Below). I don’t like this much at all.

by The Nicker on Jul 30, 2011 3:39 AM EDT reply actions  

For some reason

I feel like this is going to be a trade. They were pretty committed to not rushing him up this year

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by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Below will probably go in the bullpen

At least, that would be my guess.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would they rush him through the minors just so he could be a middle relief patch?

I quit smoking but would go through the whole ordeal again to have a cigarette with Jim Leyland

by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 3:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Right

But you don’t destroy all your development plans for a premium starting prospect just to replace a pitcher that’s had a few bad games in middle relief

I quit smoking but would go through the whole ordeal again to have a cigarette with Jim Leyland

by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Erie's season ends in 5 weeks.

Calling him up now would destroy his development at all.

by Keith-Allen on Jul 30, 2011 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gotcha

But they have a stack of relievers on their 40 man roster that they would call up for bullpen help, calling Turner up for that just makes no sense and I guarantee that isn’t what happens.

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by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind

Al Albuquerque might be hurt too.

by Keith-Allen on Jul 30, 2011 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get him some big league experience

It isn’t unheard of.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is going on?!

I DEMAND ANSWERS!

please :-)

sarcastic jinxing ass

by The Eric on Jul 30, 2011 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

If it is a trade

I really hope that it is someone that is under contract until 2013 or 2012 with a club option for 2013. I would think, no short term rentals for a prospect like Turner.

by Hungry Lion on Jul 30, 2011 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Refresh

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I quit smoking but would go through the whole ordeal again to have a cigarette with Jim Leyland

by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Tigers Management Drooling Over Jimenez?

If DD thinks that adding Jimenez for Turner could get the Tigers into the playoffs this season I can see that happening.

In addition it is not like Jimenez is old at 27.

by Buddahfan on Jul 30, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Always possible that

they have made a lesser trade, and Turner is getting one start until that new pitcher is available.

by jri on Jul 30, 2011 9:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

why not

just stick with Below then?

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by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Below is a piece of the trade

So they do not want to risk injury.

by Hungry Lion on Jul 30, 2011 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

I was thinking that was a possibility

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by Tyler Bullock on Jul 30, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's going as well?

I’m just spit balling here.

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by Brand New Hero on Jul 30, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

 Furbush pitched relief about 48 hours prior to game time. Not a stopper but not ideal situation. Also, Furbush could the backup out of the bullpen or part of the same deal.

by Hungry Lion on Jul 30, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We aren't talking about Luke French

I have onky seen Jacob Turner picth three times but I DO know he ain’t Luke French. I also know that Ubaldo ain’t Washburn.

DD will be making a decision in the next 12-24 hours that could be affecting the Tigers for years down the road.

I have always viewed Turner as a guy that would step in and replace Rickie or Max when they walk away a few years from now. In todays game we will not be able to have Verlander / Porcello / Scherzer for more than a couple of years. Turner, I thought, could step in and replace either…..in 2012 or 2013.

Tough, tough decision – Glad I’m not making it

by Jim Bunn on Jul 30, 2011 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Lets give them Below and Turner for Ubaldo

I do NOT want to lose Castellanos. He is by far the Tigers best position prospect!

by noleshane on Jul 30, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

How about Fister

Crasnick saying that our interest in Fister is heating up. What kind of package would it take to get him?

by eyerunthis on Jul 30, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

If Turner is truly coming up to start today...

…the only thing that makes sense is that they are trading away Below. Otherwise why not run out Below again? He’s been ok and they have been super reluctant to call up Turner.

My theory is that Below is part of a package for Fister.

sarcastic jinxing ass

by The Eric on Jul 30, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

always suspected that Furbush's outing on Thursday

Had more to do with today, than the game situation. If Turner starts, he will be on a extremely controlled pitch count. Hence Furbush might be needed to pitch a few innings. The catch, is Duane Below enough for Fister?

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by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Probably Below and a minor league bat if he's really part of a trade

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

so basically Washburn trade 2.0

hopefully this time with better results

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by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2011 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing like Washburn

Fister experienced a velocity spike earlier this season, his peripherals check out and methinks that Detroit is going to look real hard at those medical records.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I meant more a major league pitcher for parts

But yes, I want the whole damn DMC to check him out before he puts on thee olde English D

"I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food" - Ron Swanson

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to MLBTR

“In addition to Turner and maybe Rick Porcello or Max Scherzer, the Rockies asked the Tigers for outfielder Brennan Boesch, tweets Danny Knobler of CBS Sports. Knobler notes that Turner is starting for the Tigers today.”

by TartanElk on Jul 30, 2011 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

That is the most unrealistic demand I’ve ever heard.

by SpartanBoiler on Jul 30, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you spell relief?

D-A-N-N-Y K-N-O-B-L-E-R

Via twitter: one shot spot start, Tigers hoping to get Fister.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm waiting for the Official Tigers tweet

What’s taking them so long!?!?

tangentially related: Why did Casper Wells tweet: “Rollin in the Deeeee-eeee!” ? a few minutes ago?

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by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind ....

he cleared it up, himself

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by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Furbush likely part of the deal

See Knobler.

And if you see Rogo, give him a hug.

"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Crap

I just read the rumors. CRAP! Turner seems to be a top prospect, just about the only one they have in a very poor farm system. I hope they don’t trade Turner for Jimeniz. That’s my guess. My guess was that the Yankees or Red Sox would get Jimeniz.

Even if Turner starts today, then they are just showcasing him, on national TV yet. Something is going to happen! I like Below. He has pitched well. The Tigers have not fielded well behind him.
I also hope they don’t trade Porcello. He might be a 15-game winner. If they do bring up Turner, I hope they unload Purcey. But, instead, AA could be back on the DL.

I still think the Tigers can make the playoffs with their current roster (without Purcey and if AA is OK). But they probably need a strong #2 SP to succeed in the playoffs. We know in these playoffs that great offenses often get neutralized by great pitching.

Mel

by Melvin B on Jul 30, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Rumors are looking like it's Fister

And Turner would likely not be part of that trade.

"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Didn't Know This About Fister

In basketball, Fister was a first-team all-conference selection.

http://is.gd/C4tNJR

by Buddahfan on Jul 30, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

just the way the rotation worked out

Dave or Matt can probably verify, but I’m pretty sure he was scheduled to start in Erie today.

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by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

That he was

Drew Smyly is taking his place.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that!

Smyly has been good lately. He deserves a shot. If Smyly can get some time in Erie and Toledo in 2011 and 2012, I think he could be a nice #4 or #5 in 2013.

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by momotigers on Jul 30, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

Because I live just outside of an NL city, I’m stuck with Cubs-Cardinals today and am blacked out of the Tigers game. Which is ridiculously stupid given that I pony up for the MLB package.

HULK SMASH.

by Other Matt on Jul 30, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

here, here!

Rooting for Tiger stripes, not pinstripes

by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

If I get the Tigers game, I’ll be shocked.

by Rob Rogacki on Jul 30, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor has it

Furbush for Fister. The Turner start is just a one time thing, or so it would seem.

by japobere on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Furbush plus

But yeah, that’s the gist

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two things....

One, Screw the MLB TV rights crap, I pay for all the sports channels and MLB package on Direct TV, yet can’t watch todays game because of some gay broadcast rights crap…

Two, I am really interested to see how this whole Fister thing plays out. I made a post about it a while back, and it didn’t even look like was available and cost was even more of a guess…

by FarAwayLionFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I think you meant

“stupid,” or “messed up,” or “inexplicably ridiculous” broadcast rights, yes?

Rooting for Tiger stripes, not pinstripes

by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

What game you getting today on Fox? I’m in South Jersey and am scheduled to get Cubs-Cards, my gym is like 5 minutes away but gets North Jersey channels, so if the Tigs are on in the NY market looks like I’ll be spending 3 hours on the bike.

by Other Matt on Jul 30, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa Bay

Rooting for Tiger stripes, not pinstripes

by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Even worse. Looks like I’ll be trying to find a 3-4 hour project to do around the house with Dan/Jim on.

by Other Matt on Jul 30, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely

I love Dan & Jim, but if I sit down to listen to the radio, I will fall asleep. If it’s not too hot, I will try going for a long walk.

Damn you, exclusivity! It’s such an ugly word.

Rooting for Tiger stripes, not pinstripes

by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're spoiled

By Dan Dickerson. I don’t hate Jim Price as much as a lot of other people, at least he acknowledges when we get a good call. I’m in a spot where I get the Phillies/Yankees/Mets radio broadcasts and they’re all TERRIBLE. The Philly and Yankee guys in particular are such unabashed homers. The Indians radio and TV guys are awful, but not as bad as the east coast triumvirate. The Orioles guys aren’t bad, either on TV or radio. I don’t mind the Pirates guys either. This concludes a review of teams whose broadcasts I get on the radio on my trips to and from Michigan.

by Other Matt on Jul 30, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah....

sometimes other words sneak in when venting….

by FarAwayLionFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

no problem

understandable!

Rooting for Tiger stripes, not pinstripes

by JerseyTigerFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope this goes one of two ways

1 – It’s a trade with Turner and it’s Jiminez. He’s the only guy out there that would leave me happy with trading Turner. I see a lot of downers on a Jiminez / Turner trade, but Jiminez is a high quality, young pitcher with a very friendly contract through 2014. We’d get about 2.3 seasons from him while Verlander and Cabrera are in their primes and Porcello and Scherzer are still pretty cheap. Jiminez would make this team the favorite in the Central for the next two years. Yes, Turner might become a good pitcher, but we still get 2.3 years of nearly guaranteed high quality pitching.

2 – Spot start for the Fister deal. I’d like to see Turner start. I think it would be good for Turner to get one or two starts this year and see how the bigs taste and what he might need to do to be ready in a year or two. I wouldn’t mind seeing Fister at all. He might only top out at a #4, but he’s cost-controlled through 2015. While he won’t wow many people with his stuff, I think he’s a pretty good option with some future benefit.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Jul 30, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Fister's contract

Per Rotoworld is only signed till the end of the season.

by Hungry Lion on Jul 30, 2011 10:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's cost controlled for a few more seasons though

That’s nice.

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by David Tokarz on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rookie contract - Tigers would have control

He can’t go anywhere via free agency until 2016. Tigers could re-sign in 2012 for roughly league minimum. Then, Fister hits arbitration for 2013, 2014, and 2015. If he continues to be a steady #3 or #4 quality pitcher, I’d project those years at 2.5M, 5M, and 8.5M.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Jul 30, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spot Start = Showcase?

I have a feeling the spot start the day before trade deadline is being used as a bargaining chip…if he performs well, it could lessen what a potential team (Rockies) ask for…if he shows poorly, the Tigers simply keep him and he just gains a little experience…

by FarAwayLionFan on Jul 30, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I love Jimenez more than you.

I woke up excited to see that Turner could be on his way to COL for Ubaldo, but then I read a Tweet from someone at CBS Sports claiming that COL wanted Turner (and possible Porcello/Scherzer) and Boesch in a deal for Jimenez.

I think Boesch is our answer to Maggs departure after this year, so I don’t know that I’d want him to leave. Although, another part of me says that with Maggs and Guillen off the books after this season, we could afford a FA RF and play Wells in LF next year.

Can somebody make me make sense, plz. I’m confusing my myself even thinking about this.

Btw— I listened to the BYB Podcast for the first time the other night. Good stuff! Is Kurt an 8-year old wunderkind, or does he just sound that way? (No offense! I just thought Kurt sounded REALLY young.)

by Nich on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Turner + Boesch is a pretty good package

I’m I’m the Rox GM, I have to at least think about it. If I’m the Tigers, I’m not willing to sweeten this deal with anything other than a AA or A ball player.

Boesch is turning into a very good young player. He’s hitting for both power and average and has maintained it much better than last season. I don’t think he’s going to be a .300 hitter for the entire season, but I do believe that Boesch turns into a perennial .280/.350/.520 type player that can hit 25 HR. These days, that’s a top-20 MLB outfielder…maybe better. And he’s cheap for several more years.

We all know that Turner is a heck of a prospect and might be able to closely approximate Jiminez next season (MIGHT). As a Tiger fan, I’d do it with mixed emotions.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Jul 30, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade First, Ask Questions Later...

This seems more about what’s best for our hot-seat GM and Manager if this gets done, as opposed to how this changes the team for the next few years.

Maybe I’m just looking at this the wrong way…

by Nich on Jul 30, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heyman says it's official

but he spared the details.

#tigers acquire fister. #tradedeeadline

by crc33 on Jul 30, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting Short Article On Fister - "The Doug Fister of Today"

Just one person’s opinion of course

Here is the meat of the article

The Doug Fister that we saw today is a good, legitimate No. 3 major league pitcher. He has always been a very smart pitcher — a guy that simply mixes up his stuff well and understands how to pitch to contact when needed and when to pump up if a K is the answer. If he can maintain the increased velocity and continue to work with his new repertoire, the Mariners are going to be sitting pretty in the good and cheap pitching department for the next several seasons.

http://is.gd/nMjHvK

by Buddahfan on Jul 30, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Tigers finally pull the trade trigger, acquire Fister

Tigers finally pull the trade trigger, acquire Fister
Written on July 30, 2011 by Joe White

The Detroit Tigers will receive Seattle’s Doug Fister and David Pauley for Charlie Furbush, outfielder Casper Wells, and more, tweets Knobler.

http://is.gd/6llZVF

by Buddahfan on Jul 30, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Do We Figure This Is The End Of Our Trading?

Or do you think we are still in on Ubaldo now?

I’d say Fister takes us out of the Marquis/Hernandez, Gutherie market…

by Nich on Jul 30, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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