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Who will be the Tigers' call-ups?

LAKELAND, FL - MARCH 01: Jacob Turner #50 of the Detroit Tigers pitches in the first inning during the game against the Toronto Blue Jays at Joker Marchant Stadium on March 1, 2011 in Lakeland, Florida. The Tigers defeated the Blue Jays 6-2.  (Photo by Leon Halip/Getty Images)

We're just a couple days away from Sept. 1, the day the rosters expand. So the question that comes to everyone -- OK, it's been coming to everyone for a month now -- is what minor league players will be making the drive to Detroit for a month in the big leagues.

But here's an additional wrinkle: The playoff roster is "set" on the last day of August. So some changes may have to be made before Thursday to get the proper number of position players and pitchers on the roster. Right now there are five starting pitchers and seven relievers. So I'd expect at least one reliever to be swapped out for a position player. (Recalling Andy Dirks early would make the most sense to me).

The Tigers have not traditionally been a team that hands out rewards. Their operating philosophy is basically to ask if there's a role the player can fill with some regularity. Jim Leyland doesn't like having a crowded clubhouse or a bench full of well-paid spectators.  If the player isn't going to contribute something unique, the player probably isn't going to get the call.

So with that as our starting point, here are a couple of suggestions for players who will end up in Detroit in September. (Not necessarily on Sept. 1 exactly.)

99% FOR SURE

Jacob Turner -- The Tigers have already announced the top pitching prospect will make his second MLB start on Thursday. So he's a for-sure. (If they believe they'll want him on the playoff roster, he's going to have to come up a day earlier. I don't think they will do that, though).

Omir Santos -- The last thing the Tigers need is to wear Alex Avila out before the playoffs. Recalling catcher Omir Santos, who was in Detroit when Miguel Cabrera went on paternity leave, will help Avila get a little time off. I expect the Tigers will still treat Avila like an iron man, but every little bit helps. I don't think Santos will be called up before the 1st.

Andy Dirks -- The outfielder was basically guaranteed a return to Detroit when he was optioned to Toledo. He suffered a slight injury while with the Hens', but according to the Coop Scoop blog he should be returning to normal duties with tonight's game. If he is in fact healthy, I can see him coming up by Wednesday's game with a reliever being optioned to Toledo only to return in September.

DON'T FORGET

Carlos Guillen will be rehabbing with the Mud Hens and returning to Detroit when healthy.

POSSIBLE

(I can see these players returning but I don't think I see the as necessary.)

Danny Worth -- Worth was already in Detroit once in the past couple of days, filling in for Don Kelly when he was on paternity leave. Worth was optioned to Toledo on Saturday. Worth gives the Tigers an above-average defensive replacement at multiple infield positions, and we know Leyland loves to take advantage of defensive replacements.

Andrew Oliver -- He seems more like he's bound for the bullpen anyway. A strikeout/walk guy just profiles that way. Plus the rotation appears to be set for years without him in it. It would make sense to bring him up to see what he's got.

Star-divide

MAYBE

(I don't think these guys add a whole lot but I don't rule them out.)

Will Rhymes -- Ryan Raburn jammed his thumb. However, Ramon Santiago has been holding down the position acceptably this month. He kind of slumped a bit but went 4-for-4 in yesterday's game. Meanwhile, Rhymes has major league experience and had been called up earlier this month.With Guillen returning, I don't see a good argument for Rhymes, but I guess I don't rule it out.

Adam Wilk, Brayan Villarreal -- I don't know that either player really adds a lot to the bullpen, based on past experience and the way Leyland uses the bullpen now. (David Pauley, we hardly know you!) So I don't feel like they have to be brought up in September. But I certainly don't rule either player out.

PROBABLY NOT

(The rest of the 40 man roster ...)

Clete Thomas -- I don't think he's high on the Tigers' list any more, to be honest.

Ryan Strieby -- First base and DH are far too well covered.

Cale Iorg -- The Tigers don't seem to have any faith in him and he's taken a step back defensively.

SURPRISE?

By my count 39 of 40 roster spots are used, so the Tigers could purchase the contract of a player not on the roster and call him up. C'mon up, Timo Perez!

BONUS

I have been told Toledo manager Phil Nevin will join the Tigers as soon as the Mud Hens' season ends.

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Inge

Didn’t Inge take the last spot when his contract was purchased?

"It's 4th and inches and the Giants are going for it. You gotta love sports!"

by BSells12 on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

the rosters expand on september 1

they can have the entire 40 man roster with the team if they want.

by allikazoo on Aug 29, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know that

"It's 4th and inches and the Giants are going for it. You gotta love sports!"

by BSells12 on Aug 29, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

phil nevin

is he being discussed as a replacement for JL? any possibility he gets grabbed by another org.?

by davewilliamt on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I dont want to see Oliver

This guy is for some reason stil on the roster. I really dont see what they see in him. He has horrible control and he cant find the plate.

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 29, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know, 8.74 K/9 maybe?!

you must hate half the pitchers in the tigers bullpen. let’s cut perry and schlereth too hey?

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 29, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Oliver has a tendency to unravel later in starts

Hence the “move him to the ’pen” talk.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 29, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well hes def not going to start in the bigs

I guess maybe in the pen. Im sure his walks per 9 are over half that hate though as well.

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 29, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's definitely not going to start in the bigs?

Seriously, when did the Oliver to the ’pen meme start? Did I miss a memo?

Cue Mike to tell me why I’m wrong.

"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke

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by David Tokarz on Aug 29, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It never started

His original point, which is basically that Oliver (despite his 8.74 K/9 in AAA, lower than Furbush FYI) provides nothing of value to the major league club currently.

by The Nicker on Aug 29, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Im Saying Is

Ive seen him start a handful of games and ive seen nothing that has impressed me. Furbush to me was the better pitcher (Guess thats why Seattle wanted him). I just dont see him cracking THE TIGERS rotation. Maybe another team when when trade, not if but when.

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 29, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is an easy one
Seriously, when did the Oliver to the ’pen meme start?

July 30th, 2011 at, oh, about 4:15 pm. LINK

by Rob Rogacki on Aug 29, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about AlAl?

Wouldn’t a decision on Wilks or Villarreal depend on AlAl returning? Hard to know what he’ll be like if he does return.

by inthzone on Aug 29, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

it's hard to really say with AlAl due to the head injury

it’s better not to count on getting him back. if he can come back, bonus frosting

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 29, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heard AlAl is ready to go- pure roster manipulation at this point

Not sure how true this is, heard from a friend who lives in Michigan, I"m in Florida. But he said AlAl was fine and on 9/1 he’ll be back on the roster. Again, guy doesn’t work for Tigers but it does make some sense, if you leave him on DL and he isn’t sharp or something he doens’t take up a roster spot , if he is he is eligble for postseason.

by Raz74 on Aug 29, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a 7-day DL for concussions

He didn’t return after the first 7-day period (on Aug 20). I’m guessing they “re-upped” the 7-day option so he was probably eligible to return on 8/27, but hasn’t come back yet. I don’t know why the team would not go with their best bullpen while trying to win the division, but I guess it’s possible that they’re still trying to weigh their options with guys like Perry, Pauley, Below, and Schlereth.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Aug 29, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word is AlAl is going to return on September 1st

Which, IIRC, makes him eligible for the playoff roster while still allowing whoever gets sent down that day to also be eligible. Well played, Tigers management.

by Rob Rogacki on Aug 29, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're not stupid

some people think they are, but they’re savvy.

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 29, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Santos..

….so, if we don’t call Santos up before Thursday, and (God forbid) something happens to Avila in the playoffs, do we have to resort to Inge catching, or can we make the call-up then because it’s an injury replacement? (Assuming that V-Mart is still unable to catch).

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by Robocop on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

you can replace a guy that gets injured, as long as they play the same position

by patthepat on Aug 29, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

3 games with one position maybe slighty worse? It’s hardly worth a DFA of a piece you might eventually need.

That said, you’ll get your wish because the Tigers probably want 14 position players on the post season roster.

You know I'm right about this.

by HighOPS on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

three games?

this is all about playoff eligibility. maggs is looking like he needs to be put out to pasture and with boesch’s health in question we could use another outfielder pretty badly.

dirks plays pretty good defense and won’t get slaughtered at the plate

by patthepat on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you have them sorted just about right

There will also be some players headed to the Arizona Fall League, and they won’t be September call ups. That list of six or seven players is always full of surprises.

Any pitcher optioned could be recalled as soon as Sept 6, when Toledo’s season is officially over.

What about this? Porcello could make his start on 8/31, be optioned down, then called back up on 9/6 to make his next regular start. Since he is not in the minors for 20 days, he would not even use up an option, as if that really mattered anyway.

What else is cool about that? The timing is made possible by having Turner start on 9/1, pushing Kid Rick’s start back to 9/6. Seems too painless and perfect to not come true.

The rules on adding replacements to the playoff rosters for players on the DL are pretty loose, as long as a player is in the organization by 8/31.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

If we did what Tigerdog is suggesting

Rick would not be eligible for the playoff roster. Currently he is, don’t worry.

by Rob Rogacki on Aug 29, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is absolutely false

Rick could be added to the playoff roster with zero problem.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Aug 29, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to bring this up but.......

I think we need to address the area where we’ve been lucky all year, but now its time to really make a decision. We should add a catcher to the playoff roster. Santos should be added to the playoff roster. Yes thats going to take a probably needed position player away. But, what IF something unfortunate were to happen in game 1 of the ALDS against Boston?
Maybe Vmart can go, maybe Kelly can fill in, maybe Inge can fill in. But how effective is that going to be? We could keep a pitcher off the list since we wont need a 5 man pitching staff once the playoffs start. If AA can go, we are good. But what if……..

by blueleo1 on Aug 29, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Avila will probably catch every playoff game

and V Mart will catch those that he doesn’t.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Aug 29, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we risk V-Mart's bat to have him catch?

Guess it’s a big dilemma to risk a possibly wonky V-Mart to spell Avila but choices are limited.

by inthzone on Aug 29, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The playoff schedule usually provides "travel days"

although, they’re tightening things up this year with the schedule to get the playoffs over with sooner, there should still be ample time for Avila to get some rest. More than he’s been getting.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Aug 29, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no no no

avila will catch every game in the playoffs. if he does get hurt they can replace him with santos at that point.

by patthepat on Aug 29, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's lots of off-days in a playoff schedule

Avila could probably catch em all.

"Aside from the stuff I haven’t been diagnosed for yet, I don’t have a problem."- Phil Coke

Contributor, Bless You Boys

by David Tokarz on Aug 29, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope it dosent come back and bite us

We are probably going to bring up more players this year then in the last couple of years. Probably some pitchers and the usual candidates. Worth, Dirks. Sorry to say it, but Inge is looking like the Inge we DFA’d. I’’d rather Dirks & Kelly both make the 8/31 playoffs and let Inge watch from home with the rest of us. I think Ryhmes deserves another shot maybe not the 8/31 roster, but bring him up for Sept. Carlos will be a tough choice on the Tigs. What are the rules Tigerdog/Kurt on someone being on the DL on 8/31 and you want him on the 8/31 roster? Do they just write his name down along with the rest of the 24 and state these are our 25 guys? Carols will be tough because I think we are (gulp) blessed with another year of his services or is this the last year for Carlos?

by blueleo1 on Aug 29, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Playoff rosters aren't due until after the season is done

but the players have to be chosen from a list of “eligible players”. Any player on the 25 man “active” roster by 8/31 is eligibe. Any player on military leave, bereavement leave, or on the DL is eligible. Any player on the DL can be replaced, but there are two criteria. The replacement player must be a pitcher to replace a pitcher on the DL and must be a position player to replace a position player on the DL. Second, a player must be in the organization by 8/31. He can’t be acquired after that. Within those constraints, they’re pretty loose about who is added. Villarreal could be added to replace Zumaya, even if he wasn’t on the 25 man roster by 8/31. So they basically just have to get the right mix of pitchers and position players by the end of the month.

Carlos and Maggs have to be done after this season, IMO.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Aug 29, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

??? Carlos & Maggs

Cant they just be left off the playoffs roster for someone who contributes.

by lil chris on Aug 29, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can be, but would Leyland do that?

I think he’d have them along for the ride. He might even try to make Carlos the primary 2B again.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Aug 29, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

And, I thought the 8/31 list had to be put out like 9/1. Otherwise, why call it an 8/31 list? I understand though, and yes, as pointed out, that gives us lots of wiggle room tween now and then.

by blueleo1 on Aug 29, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd love Timo and Strieby

If for no other reason than to have more players to fool around with on MLB ’11. har har har

Honestly, I feel like you could put wilk into the “For Sure” list. Having another arm besides Turner they can use for long relief and maybe a spot start or two would be great.

by TartanElk on Aug 29, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got my copy of that game today

Looking forward to playing with some current players.

by H2OPoloPunk on Aug 29, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Wilk hurt?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by momotigers on Aug 30, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better ? who should be on playoff roster. i couldnt figure out last 3 to kick off

1.Alex Avila C
2.Victor Martinez DH/C
3.Miguel Cabrera 1B
4.Ramon Santiago 2B
5.Jhonny Peralta SS
6.Wilson Betemit 3B
7.Austin Jackson CF
8.Delmon Young LF
9.Brennan Boesch RF
10.Don Kelly UTILTY
11.Ryan Raburn UTILTY
12.Brandon Inge 3B
13.Guillen, Carlos 2B/LF
14.Magglio Ordonez RF

15.Justin Verlander SP1
16.Max Scherzer SP2
17.Rick Porcello SP3
18.Doug Fister SP 4
19.Jacob Turner SP5
20.Jose Valverde CL
21.Joaquin Benoit RP 8TH
22.Al Alburquerque RP 7TH
23.Brad Penny SP/RP
24.Duane Below SP/RP
25.Phil Coke SP/RP
26.David Pauley RP
27.Ryan Perry RP
28.Daniel Schlereth RP

by lil chris on Aug 30, 2011 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Kick Out

Schlereth, Guillen and I guess Pauley

Schlereth is an abomination

I have serious doubts on whether Guillen really exists

Pauley doesn’t get used. So no big loss.

by TartanElk on Aug 30, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Schlereth, Penny, and Inge

Each one plays a position that can be better played by multiple other players.

I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

by Tigerdog1 on Aug 30, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Turner won't be on the playoff roster

Guillen probably won’t be back and then I’d lose Pauley.

by Rob Rogacki on Aug 30, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

2006 - Who got left home

I remember a very disappointed Mike Maroth got let off Detroit’s playoff roster in 2006, but were there others that were significant? I think the infamous Nefi Perez took Maroth’s spot if I;m not mistaken

by Jim Bunn on Aug 30, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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