Justin Verlander...lucky?
As we all know, the American League Cy Young race is particularly close this year with our own Justin Verlander and the Angels' Jered Weaver as front-runners. Today, I stumbled across a column by Cliff Corcoran on the Sports Illustrated website in which he gives his rankings for the Cy Young award at this point in the season. Although he ranks Verlander as slightly ahead of Weaver (which I agree with), he has this to say concerning Verlander's candidacy:
As great as Justin Verlander has been this season, if he and Jered Weaver had the same run support and luck on balls in play -- two things beyond the pitcher's control -- this race wouldn't be close, and it would be Weaver who would be way out in front.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/cliff_corcoran/08/08/cy.young/index.html#ixzz1UTx1ifE0
I could not believe he would make this claim. Especially when, in my opinion, Jered Weaver has been the luckier of the two pitchers this season. Corcoran cites that Verlander's has been lucky on balls in play and he has. His career BABIP is .287, while this season it is .232. So yes, he has gotten quite lucky in that regard. However, Weaver's rate on balls in play is also quite low (.248 this year, .277 career average). So perhaps Verlander has been slightly more lucky, but to say that Weaver hasn't been fortunate as well is a blatant lie.
Corcoran also mentions the issue of run support. Weaver (3.77 runs/game) receives on average one less run per game than Verlander (4.98 runs/game). But to me this is a non-issue because as we saw last year with Felix Hernandez, wins have been given much less value by Cy Young voters. Incidentally, CC Sabathia is in 3rd place in his rankings and he gets over 7 runs per game of support. If either Verlander or Weaver pitched for the Yankees, both may very well be sitting on 20 wins right now.
Obviously Corcoran did not put much research into this column because he would have seen that Jered Weaver has been luckier than Verlander this year. Weaver is an extreme fly ball pitcher (career 48.5% FB%), and yet his HR/FB% is only 3.5%. This is well below his career rate of 7.3%. He has been extremely fortunate in this regard as his FIP and xFIP show (2.58, 3.55). His xFIP is nearly two runs higher than his ERA!!! He has given up only 8 HR this year, while the three previous seasons saw this number up in the 20-30 range. Weaver's LOB% is also extremely high when compared to league norms and his own career average (84.1% this year, 76.7% career). Simply put, Weaver's ERA is so low because he has been extremely lucky in not giving up many home runs, stranding runners on base, and BABIP.
On the other hand, Verlander's season rates (other than BABIP) line up quite well with his career statistics. He has a strikeout rate higher than his career rate. He's walking fewer batters, producing a lower WHIP. His lower LD% shows that batters are not hitting the ball as hard off him this year as in the past, which can help explain the significant drop in opponent's batting average and BABIP.
Simply put, Jered Weaver has been luckier than Justin Verlander this year and it is ridiculous for Corcoran to insinuate otherwise. Oh...and in the article he also attributed luck as the reason for Verlander's no-hiiter versus Toronto earlier this year (citing that he only had 4 K's) despite it being the second of his career. Anyone who watched that game saw that very few balls were hit hard during that game off JV. There must be more than luck involved if a pitcher can throw multiple no-hitters in his career (and come close numerous other times).
In my mind, Justin Verlander is the clear favorite to win the 2011 AL Cy Young.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of the Bless You Boys writing staff.
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The writer apparently decided to neglect HR per fly ball
As you noticed, xFIP points to Verlander because of Weaver’s incredibly low HR:FB rate. Weaver’s rate (3.5%) is actually better than half his normal rate (7.3%). Verlander also strikes out more batters and walks fewer. I would think a guy who writes for Baseball Prospectus would notice that.
It's almost like he thinks BABIP is the only way to determine a pitcher's good fortune
That HR/FB is ridiculously low. I mean the Tigers hit a third of the total home runs he had given up the whole season to that point in just one game!
When you have already formulated your opinion before you research
You can find statistics that say whatever you are looking for.
by TonyOrlando78 on Aug 9, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe that's called "inductive reasoning"
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
And because he strikes out tons of batters
And the ones who do put it in play tend to hit flyballs, which are more likely to go for homers (if well hit) but less likely to become hits.
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and fewer line drives, which have the highest percentage odds of being a hit, easily
Hitters aren’t getting good swings on him, aren’t getting around on the fastball, and are getting under the ball for balls that are easily fielded.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
And actually
pitchers who tend to get more flyballs also tend to have less of their flyballs hit for home runs. The article also fails to mention that BABIP doesn’t account for that high strikeout pitchers have lower BABIPs because they induce weaker contact, meaning easier to field balls in play. So yeah, pitchers do have SOME control on batted ball luck.
by Griffin Fraley on Aug 20, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that article and was rather annoyed.
And was also quite sure it was wrong. Thanks for doing the research.
Nice write up
I took the tone of the article as if you were stabbing the keyboards while typing.
POD where my opinion is a fact!
by LeyandsMarlboros on Aug 11, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
I don't usually like Passan, but he gave a better look at the Cy Young race yesterday
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_verlander_weaver_sabathia_cy_young_081111
The only thing I don’t really agree with him on is the RISP section, but otherwise I think he gives a much better and in-depth analysis than the SI article.
That's actually a surprisingly good article
and that RISP section is a little bonk, but it gave me good insight as to why Weaver’s LOB% is in the 80s this season, he seems to escape innings by letting people on without driving runs in.
Also, might be worth discussing how Weaver shares a division with
the Mariners and A’s, who just happen to be two of the worst hitting teams in the world. Might be worth considering how frequently he pitches against those feeble offenses.
by (The)BallDontLie on Aug 13, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions

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