Detroit Tigers Playoff Roster Decisions: Ryan Perry
We kicked this off with 22 likely "locks" on the Tigers' playoff roster yesterday. (Honestly, I think you could go with 23, but that would cut down on the number of posts I could milk this for so I won't.) This series will continue throughout the week. Today, it continues with a player who was probably a lock the whole time: Ryan Perry
While putting together my list of 22 players who I thought were locks for the post season roster, I ran debated about Daniel Schlereth and Ryan Perry. Honestly, I think both are pretty safe bets to make the roster despite being less than stellar at times. I gave Schlereth a vote of confidence because he's left-handed, and that's going to be pretty important when your likely playofff opponent is Boston. So that left us with Perry up for debate.
The way I see it, there are two positions available in the bullpen for these players to compete for: Perry, Brad Penny, Duane Below, David Pauley and Luis Marte. Penny is doing his best to pitch right out of the conversation. Of the possible right handers, the advantage clearly lies with Perry. That leaves us the question of whether the Tigers will take three left handers and include Below. (Ah, but that's another post.)
But when you look closer at Perry, I'm not sure if you feel a lot of warm fuzzies either. So I guess it made sense that I put him on the bubble.
Reasons to take Perry
- 31% of inherited runners score off him, which might sound bad but is actually fine compared to other Tigers in the pen who are on the bubble.
- 0.3 HR/9 in 2011. Maybe home runs aren't entirely controllable by the pitcher, but I'd rather see a small number than big.
Reasons to leave Perry off the roster
- 5.75 ERA in 2011. 5 walks per nine innings and 6.4 strikeouts this year shows he's not exactly dominating the opposition.
- 5 strikeouts to 3 walks ratio in his past 8 games not exactly stellar. .414 OBP in the past 8 games.
- .762 OPS against by right-handed batters this season doesn't sound real great either, and he's worse against lefthanders.
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I'd rather see Turner get a spot
Honestly, I trust him to get outs more than Perry/Penny/Below/Schlereth combined.
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he might not be as out of the equation as we assume
I hope he’s not because I don’t feel too excited over the possible choices
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Turner's K/9 and BB/9 are better than Perry's
In both AAA and MLB this year.
Obviously there’s a innings issues and whatnot here, but we’re probably talking a small workload. It would be good experience for the kid and I really do feel he gives the club the best shot at getting through (or out of) an inning.
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by Matt Snyder on Sep 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd prefer if we used these last 8 games or so to give him some bullpen use if we're considering it.
I don’t think I’d want a playoff game to be the first time this year in which Turner comes in with inherited runners.
I don’t think I’d want a playoff game to be anytime in which Perry comes in with inherited runners.
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by Matt Snyder on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the Detroit papers quoted Leyland yesterday
saying J T would start Thursday and then be shut down
Stop sayin' "likely playofff opponent is Boston"!
You’ll jinx it! We’re tied with the Rangers now…..
I like the idea of Turner. The postseason always has these phenom kids brought up nobody has seen before and they pitch great in the playoffs.
And I don’t trust Perry and I’m already losing too much hair and already drink too much and I don’t NEED ANY MORE STRESS!!!!!!!
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
I assure you that I do not have that much control over the universe
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
You don't know your own strength.
One of the things I like about ya’.
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
He's our ROOGY
With the number of left-handers we have, it’s useful to have a right-hander who can be used situationally just to get one out between them – the ROOGY.
Yeah, Perry hasn’t exactly been dominating RH bats according to the numbers, but you can use him that way in low leverage situations (against a batter with poor splits against RH), saving AlAl, Benoit, and Valverde for later innings. I do wonder if Perry’s numbers are a little inflated from being used in these kind of situations sometimes.
Perry has the talent and stuff to get tough batters out. I envision his role being to face one batter in the 6th or 7th inning. Guys like Longoria, Youkilis, Pedroia, Jeter, Beltre, and Cruz - quality hitters whose splits indicate they are far less likely to do damage against RH pitchers than left -- can be his task in certain situations. If it’s bases loaded in the 7th or 8th, no. But to get one guy to lead off the 7th inning (e.g. Jeter) with a LH on deck (e.g. Granderson), Perry could provide value.
Assuming AlAl is healthy, he makes the roster.
Likewise Coke, Schlereth and Below, IMO. I just can’t see how Marte would make the roster, especially after last evening. Penny is getting worse by the game, and would not be an asset in the playoffs. That leaves the choice for an 11th pitcher between Perry and Pauley. Pauley has better numbers overall. He is one of those anomalous guys with better numbers (as a right-hander) against lefties than against righties, but his numbers against both are better than Perry’s. Strikeouts per batter faced are close (Perry is a little better in this number, but not a lot), whereas Pauley walks significantly fewer batters. Pauley’s numbers are not as good since joining the Tigers as they were in Seattle. Nevertheless, I’d still probably go with Pauley if that is the choice.
by knucklescarbone on Sep 21, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
I don't have a strong opinion on Perry being on the roster
but I voted yes, because I feel stronger about Penny NOT being on the roster, and Perry is less undesirable to me than others.
Knowing that we’ll have a four man rotation, and an 11 man bullpen, that means that if Penny goes to the pen, he will displace one of the seven that would be in the bullpen right now on a normal 25 man roster. Most likely, that would be the long man- Below.
Valverde, Benoit, Coke are locks. That’s three.
Al Al is in if he’s healthy. That’s four.
Schlereth is probably in, just because of the man love that they seem to have for him, plus he’s the only LOOGY on the bubble, and I think JL feels naked without a LOOGY. Five.
One long man- probably either Below or Penny. Six.
One more- Pauley, Perry, Penny, Below, Marte, Turner.
I’d eliminate Turner, which is another discussion.
I’d go with Pauley over Perry, but not by much. I think he’s shown more consistency this season. I’d like to see more from Marte before putting him on a playoff roster, and what I do like from him is based on minor league results. Perry at least was dominant in the second half last year.
For Penny, it could come down to whether Al Al is healthy or not. I think they’ll want to see Alburquerque actually pitch well down the stretch. He’s had only a couple appearances since the beginnning of August, and has had mound visits regarding the quad the last two since coming back from the concussion.
If I had my druthers, we’d go with Valverde, Benoit, Coke, Al Al, Below, Pauley, and Perry. Below doubles as the LOOGY and the long man, and either Al Al, Coke, or Pauley could pull long duty as well if needed.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!

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