Delmon Young contributes runs to both sides, Tigers hold off Indians
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 28, 2011 12:20 AM EDT
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KEY STAT
9 extra base hits by Detroit.
KEY PLAY
Wilson Betemit home run in the first inning. This was key because a day after hearing "he ain't right" out of Jim Leyland's mouth, Betemit was really quite right after all.
KEY THOUGHTS
Detroit just wasn't content with a nice lead tonight. An 8-2 lead became a 9-6 final. Youch. On the bright side, Jose Valverde recorded his 48th save in 48 attempts. So I guess some good came of it.
Daniel Schlereth avoided too much trouble pitching in relief of Max Scherzer in the sixth. Phil Coke made up for that in the seventh, giving up all sorts of hits and two runs as well.
Positives: Delmon Young. Well, let's make that Delmon Young at the plate. Delmon Young in the field was, well, Delmon. He nearly made a "nice" catch at the wall but he dropped it. (Now before Twins fans out there snicker too much, let's just remember that Ryan Raburn would have batted the ball over the fence. Or else he would have dropped it, too, like he did with an easy fly ball to right field today.) Like I said, DY Jr made up for it at the plate. An RBI single in the first, a two-run homer in the fourth, three hits overall. A good showing.
Miguel Cabrera went 2-for-5 with a HR to extend his batting average to 343. (Fun/pointless fact: When I lived in Detroit, that was the middle three digits of our phone number!) And of course Victor Martinez had two hits as well.
The Tigers have 94 wins.
OTHER STUFF
The Rangers are about to have 95 wins because the Angels apparently aren't going to give their home fans a lot to cheer about in the final series of the year. Thanks, Anaheim.
Boston and Tampa are still tied for the AL wild card.
Atlanta and St. Louis are tied for the NL wild card.
There is one game left in the season.
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I was watching the Rays game, so I only saw the box score...
Did Raburn get picked off as well as caught stealing the conventional way? If so, that is a really really awful day of baserunning.
Looked like a called play
And a good read by the defense. As much as I’d like to blame Raburn for another blunder, it probably wasn’t his fault in this case.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
At Least Central Teams Love To Play Spoilers.
2006 Royals
2009 Twins
I’m sure there were more, but we play for pride no matter where we are in the standings, We Don’t Roll Over & Let The Other Teams Win.
And so do the East. Look at the Orioles. Kick Butt on those Sox tomorrow.
2009 Twins (Bad Choice), White Sox Though Would Be A Good Choice
by TigersFan1957 on Sep 28, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
A season?!?!
that’s it? There for about a month after that game, I was fairly certain death would feel better than the way I felt. It was a pain that can only be topped by events of catastrophic magnitudes.
Still to this day, any time I see the number 163, I about lose my shit and start setting random objects on fire. I still haven’t totally recovered from that one…
God ain't got no use for a 180 lb bag of sugar.
#twitch
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
This next month might prove to be a good antidote.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Watching Boston blow their 10.5 game lead
Would be a hell of a start. To watch the nation squirm would be a great way to start the ball rolling…
God ain't got no use for a 180 lb bag of sugar.
Magglio now has an 18 game hitting streak.
Anyone think he retires after this season?
Arizona v Dodgers, 10 inning game
Dodgers take the lead in the top of the 10th, 6- 1.
Blake Hawksworth comes in with a nice lead, gets the first two outs, then gives up a grounder deep to first base. Loney makes a nice play on the line, but Hawksworth didn’t bother to cover the base. He proceeds to load the bases, throw in a fielding error on a routine grounder, one run in and Javy Guerra, the closer is summoned. Two outs, bases loaded, he walks in a run to make it 6- 3. Next up, Ryan Roberts hits a grand slam to win the game for Arizona.
Total damage, three runs, one homer, and four RBI scored against my fantasy team. Thanks, suckworth!
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Behold: I have made a list of every possible scenario!
Scenario 1
Tigers win
Rangers win
Rays win
Red Sox win
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 2
Tigers win
Rangers lose
Rays lose
Red Sox lose
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Texas Rangers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Detroit Tigers
Scenario 3
Tigers lose
Rangers win
Rays lose
Red Sox lose
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 4
Tigers lose
Rangers lose
Rays win
Red Sox lose
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
Tampa Bay Rays @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 5
Tigers lose
Rangers lose
Rays lose
Red Sox win
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
Boston Red @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 6
Tigers win
Rangers lose
Rays win
Red Sox lose
ALDS Game 1:
Texas Rangers @ New York Yankees
Tampa Bay Rays @ Detroit Tigers
Scenario 7
Tigers win
Rangers lose
Rays lose
Red Sox win
ALDS Game 1:
Texas Rangers @ New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox @ Detroit Tigers
Scenario 8
Tigers win
Rangers win
Rays lose
Red Sox lose
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 9
Tigers lose
Rangers win
Rays win
Red Sox lose
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
Tampa Bay Rays @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 10
Tigers lose
Rangers win
Rays lose
Red Sox win
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 11
Tigers lose
Rangers lose
Rays win
Red Sox win
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 12
Tigers win
Rangers win
Rays win
Red Sox lose
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
Tampa Bay Rays @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 13
Tigers win
Rangers win
Rays lose
Red Sox win
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 14
Tigers win
Rangers lose
Rays win
Red Sox win
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Texas Rangers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Detroit Tigers
Scenario 15
Tigers lose
Rangers win
Rays win
Red Sox win
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Texas Rangers
Scenario 16
Tigers lose
Rangers lose
Rays lose
Red Sox lose
One game playoff:
Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
ALDS Game 1:
Detroit Tigers @ New York Yankees
One Game playoff winner @ Texas Rangers
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Sep 28, 2011 3:32 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
In conclusion:
The Yankees play the Tigers in 12 of the 16 possible scenarios. They play the Rangers in the other 4
The Tigers play the Yankees in 12 scenarios, the Red Sox in 1 scenario, the Rays in 1 scenario, and the winner of the one game playoff in 2 scenarios.
The Rangers play the Yankees in 4 scenarios, the Red Sox in 4 scenarios, the Rays in 4 scenarios, and the winner of the one game playoff in 4 scenarios.
The Red Sox play the Rays in a one game playoff in 7 scenarios, the Rangers in 4 scenarios, the Tigers in 1 scenario, and miss the playoffs in 4 scenarios.
The Rays play the Red Sox in a one game playoff in 7 scenarios, the Rangers in 4 scenarios, the Tigers in 1 scenario, and miss the playoffs in 4 scenarios.
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Sep 28, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd these
Because I’m very impressed.
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Of which, I care not
no team in the AL scares me with JV/thebrickFISTer as a 1-2 punch in a short series.
Bring it on.
God ain't got no use for a 180 lb bag of sugar.
Nice work, TJ, but it all doesn't matter
The Tigers are gonna open up a can on whomever they meet!
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
Delmon dropped a ball? *snicker*
— A Twins fan (who happens to be wearing a Tigers shirt right now)
by ColossusOfRhode on Sep 28, 2011 4:49 AM EDT reply actions
he didn't look nearly as ridiculous as Raburn
Also, he didn’t knock it over the fence! Also like Raburn!
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I don't know
His belly flop after missing it was very Rayburn(see what I did there)-esque
Do I get bonus points for parenthesis and hyphen in one word?
God I hope we win and the Rangers lose
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You know, the less I think about it, the less upset I am about playing the Yankees.
Better to beat them in 5 than in 7. Not like we haven’t done it before.
Yanks
A little off topic, but does anyone else think the Yanks are throwing the series with the Rays to screw Boston? Russell Martin was mouthing off a couple days ago about how much he hates the Sawx and then yesterday hits into a triple play with the bases loaded and no outs in a game that directly impacts Boston’s playoff hopes. Credit to the Rays for their late push, but still…
A soft grounder to the left side of the infield is not a difficult thing for a professional hitter to do on purpose.
If so
Then Martin has purposely been trying to do that all season.
by Rob Rogacki on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lol. I know, I’m being a little ridiculous on the Russell Martin thing. But I seriously wouln’t put it by the Yanks to go out and play 60% against the Rays just to stick it to their biggest rival. They’ve got nothing left to accomplish before the post season, they had home field advantage locked up before the final series started. I just think poorly enough of New York to believe they’d do something like this.
It's doubtful.
Look at it this way — if they were REALLY trying to screw over the Sox, wouldn’t it be more sensible to pinch-hit Cap’n Jetes and A-Rod (rather than leave them on the bench) in that extra-innings game the other night? That would have allowed them to take the series-finale while also dropping them a game back of the Rays.
If they’re giving 60%, it’s due to what you mentioned — they already have HFA locked up and really nothing left to play for. They’re not tanking this series to screw the Sox, though I’m sure it’s an added bonus.
by The Birchman on Sep 28, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
If I'm the Yanks
I’d much rather have the Sawx in the playoffs than the Rays.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Am I the only one...
who thinks we have a huge advantage on the road in the first series if it’s vs. the Yankees? The two hottest pitchers in the league at Yankee stadium doesn’t sound like a bad scenario to me. Not saying it would be a walk, but we could likely return to Detroit up 2-0… and I believe it’s very likely to return 1-1. I almost want the Rangers to win home field. “Listen to them Roar… Tigers in 4”
Jeff
Agreed
I’d almost rather start of the road because Verlander and Fister will be fine wherever. But I’d rather have Max start game 3 at Commerica than in the Bronx.
I agree as well
although I may be trying to console myself over losing the 2 seed. The formula worked well the last time as I remember.
I agree too.
Verlander and Fister on the road is great. I am not complaining at all. In fact, The YAnkees desperately want to face the 3 left handed pitchers of Rangers. Yankees hitting against left handed pitchers is monstrous.
I bet Yankees are not too keen to fave JV and DF in game 1 and 2.
I like our chances.
1) CC Sabathia game 1 ERA 3.0
2) Ivan Nova game 2 ERA 3.62
3) Bartolo Colon game 3 ERA 4.02
4)Phil Hughes ERA 6.0!!! or Freddy Garcia(2001 Mariners fame) ERA 3.77
Round 2
How does round two work if Boston or Tampa advance? Would we get home field since we had a better record than them?
yes and no
If Tigers and the wild card winner advance, Tigers get home field in the ALCS. But that’s because the wild card is a fourth seed, no matter the record.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 28, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
My Scenario
I have tickets to Tigers Home Game # 2
Saturday is one of my scheduled days off (Home Field Advantage)
Tuesday I am scheduled to work, but I make the schedules so I can take it off & use a vacation day or sick day. (No Home Field Advantage) also (Possible we sweep or get swept then I go to No Games) or we could Clinch the play-off and advance, that would be Great, or it could go one more game to find the winner.
I like the idea of playing the Yankees first round but I sure hope my dad & I get to go to Game #2 & we Clinch, that would be Awesome
We will be right behind Home plate a little towards the visitors’ dugout
Love It
by TigersFan1957 on Sep 28, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be at game 1 or 3--first home game
my hope is that we get NY, take the first 2 game there, and I get to watch them win the DS the game I go to.
Nothing on the face of this earth could make me happier than seeing that situation play out.
God ain't got no use for a 180 lb bag of sugar.
Jose Reyes just bunted for a base hit and was removed from the game
He’s percentage points ahead of Braun for the batting title. Personally, I have no problem with that. I’d also have no problem with Scoscia sending Weaver out to pitch an inning, and if he doesn’t allow a run, he gets the ERA title. Where I do have a problem is sending out these rookies to pitch games that are critical to other teams. They should be fined or suspended for that. It’s very poor sportsmanship, IMO.
I don't care what the Chinese say, 2011 is the Year of the Tiger!
I think you should probably play the game the way it's meant to be played
That means not pulling a guy to win a batting title and that means not throwing AA pitchers.
When Curtis Granderson hit .302 for the Tigers in 2007 (and hitting .300 was a pretty big accomplishment), he had the chance to come out of the game after a hit in his first AB to secure the milestone. Did Curtis Granderson choose to watch the rest of the game from the bench? No. Instead of WWJD, we need to approach these situation as WWCGD?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Why should the Yankees pitch one of their guys
that they will be depending on in the playoffs? Why risk the injury? What benefit do the Yankees get for trying hard to win this game? The Yankee’s match up better against the Rays in the playoffs.
A lot has been made about the yankees pulling their starters after three innings. They were up 7-0, on the last game of the year, that meant zero to them. The Red Sox were playing the worst team in the division, and all they had to do was win the game. It isn’t up to the Yankee’s to eliminate a team from the playoffs so that the Red Sox can avoid elimination. It is up to the Red Sox to take care of their own business and worry about the Rays in a game 163, or worry about what the Yankee’s do when they meet in the playoffs.
I have no problem with Jose Reyes being taken out of the game if his manager told him to come out of the game. I do have a huge problem with him telling his manager to take him out of the game because he wants his personal achievement. He sacrificed his team chances to win the game to ensure he got a personal goal…how do you not see that as poor sportsmanship?
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