Prince Fielder signs 9-year deal with Tigers
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 4:05 PM EST
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I'm just catching up here. I go shopping and leave my cell phone at home and news comes out the Tigers are about to sign Prince Fielder to a 9-year deal, $214 million deal? Holy crap.
Can I just quote myself here:
But it's fun to dream about Fielder, isn't it? I'd love to be wrong.
And so, I was definitely wrong, and I think I'll be pretty glad when I catch up on everything.
Expect updates when I figure out what happened.
Update 1:
- Multiple reports suggest that there is no opt-out clause. The Tigers and Prince will be together for a long, long time.
- I'm too awe-struck to get my head focused.
- There will be a podcast recorded tonight.
- HOLY CRAP YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!
- Here's a link to SB Nation's Baseball Nation site to follow the story from another angle.
- CBS Sports' Danny Knobler suggests Cabrera could move to third base while Fielder plays first.
- Beyond the Box Score ruminates on the same "How will the Tigers make this work?" question.
- Also please have a look at MLB Daily Dish and SB Nation Detroit.
- We'll do a full links roundup later, but with all the folks coming to see the news I wanted to make sure everyone knew the other resources on our network.
- Who hits third? Who hits fourth? I DON'T CARE! (As long as it involves Fielder and Cabrera. No Kelly and Young, thanks.)
"I'm sure Dave Dombrowski recommended this deal, but Dombrowoski doesn't make this deal by himself. The owner has to be the one to step up. In this case, Mike Ilitch said, "Hey, we're all in." The American League is going to have to go through Prince Fielder and Miguel Cabrera back-to-back."
"I don't think they would have signed Fielder if Victor Martinez didn't go down. When Martinez went down, the Tigers said, "There's nobody we can trade for to replace Victor Martinez." They're not going to pitch to Miguel Cabrera if Victor Martinez is not there. With Fielder, you have no place to hide.
On wanting to win sooner than later:
"Detroit smells it right now. They were aggressive and went out and got the best player available. Not every organization could do that. ... When they signed Prince, they weren't thinking about twelve months from now."
Dan Plesac:
On how this impacts Cabrera
It makes Miguel Cabrera the hitter that he is. He lost his protection in Victor Martinez, but now with Fielder, you take a look at this lineup, this is one of the teams that you're going to have to go through to get to the World Series in the American League. Detroit has separated themselves in the A.L. Central.
On what opposing pitchers will be thinking:
As a former pitcher, you know where Prince Fielder is in that lineup. He hits right-handers and left-handers. Martinez hits for average, but Fielder brings the long ball. ... This three, four is without question the best right-handed, left-handed combination in baseball. ... Martinez is a professional hitter, but you know where Fiedler is in the lineup 30 minutes before the game.
Update 6:
- In a Spanish-language report, Miguel Cabrera says he'll be moving to third, his natural position as he calls it. (Hat-tip SabreRoseTiger)
- Jim Leyland learned from the media that Prince was signed. (Also, downtrodden Detroit, etc.)
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Made my month!
Chicks dig me, because I rarely wear underwear and when I do it's usually something unusual
Congrats Tigers fans...
Seriously congrats though! It’ll be fun to see him play in the Central
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
That's another nice thing about Prince
He seems to be a really good clubhouse guy, I loved the way that Brewers team played around.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Totally agree with this
Across all sports at all levels, the teams that have fun together come together in crunch time the best.
by MakeItTrizzle on Jan 24, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWDROlOG3-s
Happier than a pig in shit that I was wrong about Matthew Stafford since 2009!
Go Lions, Tigers, Red Wings and Pistons!
by JazzyBBP on Jan 24, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, this changed the field quite a bit
Hopefully for the better. Only time will tell…
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
Not working :(
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I’ll take your word for it :P
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
So, who bats cleanup?
Miggy or Fielder?
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
well he would presumably have protection with Miggy/Prince behind him
so maybe he’d hit like Babe Ruth instead of getting pitched like him.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 24, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
In Milwaukee, when various managers had tried to bat Prince 3 and Braun 4th to take advantage of Braun's speed, Prince hated batting 3rd and requested to move back to 4th
"Well they can't test for LSD, so I started frying on weekends"
Don't you worry your pretty little head about us here at BYB, Kurt.
Maybe if you go shopping again we’ll have signed Oswalt.
"Some guy told me I should walk with the Lord. I'd rather walk with the bases loaded" Ken Singleton
I'm still in shock, I have no idea how to react to this
Its crazy, maybe issues next year but I’ll worry about that next year, right now its pure joy
by WorldSeriesTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions
In related news,
with the prospect of Cabrera playing third, the grounds crew at Comerica is quietly moving the 3rd base line approximately 25 degrees toward the pitchers mound. Now we know what those “renovations” were that got in the way of Tigerfest this year!
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it was the other way around..." Jim Bouton
I'm in freaking shock
This just blows my mind.
Expect updates when I figure out what happened.
This is what happened:
Mr. Illitch said to DD, “I don’t care what you do, get me a ring before my time here is up.”
DD: “Boss, I present to you Mr. Prince Fielder.”
It was probably more like
DD: “Well, Prince Fielder probably isn’t a good fit.”
Mr. I: “Get out of my way, boy. How much do you want, Mr. Fielder?”
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
Definitely this one.
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Rob just nailed it
I'm owner/editor of The Wayne Fontes Experience a deputy editor at Bless You Boys, host the Bless You Boys Podcast and co-host The Knee Jerks podcast.
Whoa.
Short-term this is fantastic, obviously. But… uhh… are we going to be able to afford anyone else for the next 9 years?
Pennants fly forever, I guess.
MIggy was contacted before and he was excited.
that lineup on opening day will be bad ass….and VMart coming back in 2012…holy cow!
you mean 2013?
but I totally agree… would love to see him come back in 2012 though
by dominator039 on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Do you mean in 2013? :P
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Wow!
I wonder how much Mr. Illitch was behind this move?
He was behind it for about $214M.
by SpartanBoiler on Jan 24, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty sure that's still Gerhig/Ruth
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Compares well to
Manny/Papi and A-Rod/Texeira.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
AAhhhh....I'm lovin' it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcvaYgWc9eY&sns=fb
What?! Shut up.
by cheapshotx on Jan 24, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
That video is amazing.
Can you believe McDonalds can still charge the same price today for a double cheeseburger!
twitter.com/philcokesbrain
by Phil Coke's Brain on Jan 24, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
So how well do you guys think he transitions into CoPa
And the AL in general?
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
I'm beginning to think that Detroit was the mystery team on Pujols as well
Think about it: they wanted Cabby in shape to play third base, they were never really connected to a third baseman…
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
could be...but they did not want to spend that much money on a 32yr old guy
Fielder is 27 yrs old
by spartynation on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Can Cabby be passable at 3b?
It looks like we have the makings of a pretty statuesque left side of the infield.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I read somewhere
that Prince may have an opt-out and the Tigers probably won’t be stuck with the whole 9 years.
One year with 8 options woulda been nice :P
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
prince in d-town
i can quote you kurt…when i was saying tigers need to show they are serious about winning a championship… not just their division….they should sign fielder..you scoffed it off and brought up a list of garbage like damon, pena, matsui….I guess great minds think alike eh mr dombrowski??? Now lets finish this offseason and bring in garza !!!! GO TIGERS !!!
by paul wall 1962 on Jan 24, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry, but about .0005% of baseball "experts" saw this coming.
If you “called” it, I’d be willing to bet it was a coincedence rather than an indication of your baseball prowess.
But to each his own, I suppose.
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
by Brand New Hero on Jan 24, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Like I keep saying
Stupid is the new awesome.
This is stupid.
(See what I did there?)
by SweetLouDoubleU on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one kind of hoping there IS an opt out clause somewhere?
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
no
you are not
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
WOW !!!!!!
9 years $214 MILLION ,I’m still confused about what position he will play next year ?
Cory Smith
Right now people are expecting 1B
But of course, this is all hypothetical
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Danny Knobler says:
“Expect the Tigers to play Prince every day at 1B, and to move Cabrera to 3B. And don’t be surprised if he’s better there than you think.”
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
DD, you sly, sly man
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
thats what id like to see
Delmon to DH, Raburn and Boesch in the corner OF spots
by dominator039 on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and Scott Boras is a bastard.
It needed to be said.
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
I'm okay with that
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Boras might be a bastard, but he's OUR bastard!
"King of Minutiae"
by Tigerdog1 on Jan 24, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Prince's Personal Goals For 2012
Surpass his father’s first year numbers with Tigers
HR 52
RBI 132
WAR 6.7
Hopefully these are Prince's goals for all 9 seasons
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Only if
with the renovations they’re putting in the RF overhang too.
by HawkeyeEdward on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm completely absolutely positively behind this.
Do it.
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Don't even care about the numners
just win us a World Series
Raburn-Santiago '12
by tigers22 on Jan 24, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol same
But more for JV…
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I already was
But yeah, this is now a video game roster.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Kurt wanna do my shopping too?
And leave your cell phone behind
Shock. n.
1-A sudden or surprising event or experience
2-the result of such an event.
3-an unkempt or thick mass of hair (see also Fielder, Prince)
Wow. Just wow.
by GreatGooglyMoogly on Jan 24, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions
You don't need to comment at all on this thread
Your name says it all. :)
The only Tigers fan in Honduras.
Trying to figure out what happened here.
Speechless.
I go into my mechanical engineering class with not even a hint of this and I come out and the most unlikely move ever has happened.
Knee jerk reaction: What?
I'm still in shock...
I have no idea whether I should be pee my pants happy or furious…
President of the Tony Scheffler Fan Club
Be happy for now
Today, we are the kings of baseball.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For sure... I just worry about our future...
I REALLY hope Martinez comes back for the playoffs… We will be unstoppable.
President of the Tony Scheffler Fan Club
Countering some negativity
Is it realy an overpayment in comparison to Pujols?
He’s what, 5 years younger than Albert. 1 year and $35 million less in his contract. His stats were almost identical to Pujols last year.
He’ll breakdown?
He sat out 8 times in 6 years…missed one game the past three years
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
by Honeyman on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
yes
in 3 years we’ll be paying 3 DHs over $50million total. for now, it’s great, though!
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 24, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
In 3 years
Prince’ll be 31, Miggy will be 32. I think both’ll have some years left on them in the field.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Yup
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
If we had $213 million to work with would it have been better to get a 3B and good Starter?
I know everybody is excited about Fielder and all, but I’m just wondering…
Miggy might give up a few runs a 3rd base
But Prince is gonna put a hell of alot more on the board then he can boot : )
definitely better than pujols
and that’s being objective because when pujols signed I thought then that whoever got fielder would be in better shape because he would get less money and is younger.
Platoon Ball
Platoon Ball is the thesis title of a Yale Economics PhD. candidate Burt Hensching
The core of the thesis points out that most effective way to win a World Series is to platoon your infield and your DH.
With the possibility of the Detroit Tigers platooning 1B, 2B, 3B and DH for the 2012 season, Hollywood has bought the movie rights to the thesis.
Rumor has it if the Tigers win the WS, Tom Cruise will play the part of Dave Dombrowski. Leonardo DiCaprio will be cast as Burt Hensching
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The Tigers will be running up slow pitch softball scores all season.
They won’t even need a defense with Verlander and company pitching.
Rod Allen chimes in on the signing
Rod Allen @RodAllen12
I guess I can bring back “COUNTRY STRONG” #yeahbuddy
by Stones1981 on Jan 24, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Heyman says:
“Heard Cabrera is excited to welcome Prince, doesn’t mind moving to 3B”
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
That's good
If he was unhappy, I’d be really worried right now. We might have a Florida situation
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff says...
Brandon Inge is not as excited.
Jeff
Haha. Well played.
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
by Brand New Hero on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Cabrera is going to have to earn that starting spot over Inge!
Please don’t throw things at me.
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
it's all about production
haven’t you been listening to Skip?
by GreatGooglyMoogly on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
They'll platoon
Cabs can bat against righties and lefties, and Inge can come in against the flipper babies who roll the ball from the mound.
Quiet offseason
I assume they didn’t just start talking to Fielder since Victor went down. If that is the case, then we definitely know why the offseason has been so quiet.
If I remember hearing correctly
Prince doesn’t get along well with his dad, does he? Just curious
Chicks dig me, because I rarely wear underwear and when I do it's usually something unusual
They don't talk, from what I've read.
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
by Brand New Hero on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
according to this
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2012/01/cecil_fielder_shocked_by_sons.html
apparently the relationship is starting to get better. But consider the source I suppose
Cool, thanks
was just curious. I remember hearing a couple days ago that it might be a deterring factor to luring him here, but that obviously wasn’t the case.
Chicks dig me, because I rarely wear underwear and when I do it's usually something unusual
Will It Have Any Affect On The Tigers?
doubt it.
More like National Enquirer news. LOL
in regards to
“filling Cecil Fielder’s shoes”. His dad did play here (and was quite good), you know. I’d say it’s pretty relevant…
Chicks dig me, because I rarely wear underwear and when I do it's usually something unusual
Something about Cecil gambling away Prince's signing bonus
or some such thing. But yeah, Prince hates his dad from what I’ve heard/read.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 24, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Since his dad is not DD, Mr. I, Leyland, or Al Avila
I don’t care.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm tearing up
Seriously.
If this doesn’t get Illitch sainted in Detroit, nothing will.
by Big Z in Orlando on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He should already get a statue in downtown.
Mr. I OWNS Detroit. We owe him everything.
At least outside of the next hockey arena.
Maybe Comerica Park as well if this move pays off.
by thepartybird on Jan 24, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Cespedes.
Well I guess we can stop paying attention to Cespedes news.
The Cuban kid
And I agree, forget about him, he’s an unkown commodity. Prince is one of, if not the, top HR hitter in MLB right now
any word
On an opt-out clause at some point? That would soften the economic blow at some point.
by keepitcomplicated on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
any word
On an opt-out clause at some point? That would soften the economic blow at some point.
by keepitcomplicated on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Welcome to Detroit
Detroit Tigers. Home of the awesomeness that is JV.
by Detroitchik on Jan 24, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
LOL wan't sure if he retained his Vegan ways
But there is that place in LA that has the meatless coney. Perhaps Pujols (or Bobby A) can send him one
That's one of many bastardizations LA has done
that should enrage you. But I’m with you, it should be right at the top of the list.
he's a vegan in fact
so if those are custard filled…..
and the sky is green
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
One of my favorite Onion pieces ever
http://www.theonion.com/articles/cc-sabathia-prince-fielder-keep-imagining-each-oth,2493/
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Some one 'shop him into a Tigers uni
And this should be the new site logo
by MakeItTrizzle on Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
MLB Network is talking about it
They say that Tigers fans are very excited. I have to concur with them. As someone said, this offseason went from worst to first in a few minutes.
Detroit Tigers: 2011 AL Central Champs
You know, I was really hoping Miguel would remain with the Tigers for the rest of his career
Is this going to still be possible/likely?
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
I do know that several of the Venezuelan media members I follow are not particularly happy about this
They feel like Miguel is getting pushed aside, so to speak.
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
That's nationalism.
I honestly believe Miguel was consulted before this move.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
There's no way
That the Tigers risk cranking off a guy in whom they’ve got $19 million/year invested. They absolutely had to talk to Miggy first.
If you’re Miggy, what’s not to love? All of a sudden, opposing teams have to pitch to you a hell of a lot more than they did even when VMart was hitting behind you.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
I think it's more that they liked having Miggy be the star of the team, and now they feel like the media is treating Fielder like he's better than Miguel, and they don't think this is the case
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Why wouldn't it be?
Victor is close to the end of his career and Fielder will probably be a DH sooner so Miguel can go back to first.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
My exacto reaction when my buddy called:
Him “Your stupid tigers are at it again.” (I live in Cle area.)
Me “What they do now?”
Him: “You didn’t hear?”
Me: “No, what?”
Him: “Prince is in Detroit…”
Me: “Stfu, stfu, dude your kidding me!!!! Omfg!!!!”
Just stoked!! Wow!!
by BeardedPlayoffJesus19 on Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Heavy vs Normal
Could Prince be an outlier?
www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-will-prince-fielder-age/
Note that this issue was almost completely ignored for CC's contract.
CC is also older… Fangraphs is really irritating sometimes.
by thepartybird on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Is this why I've already seen tweets from media members trying to trade Miguel to the Dodgers in 2013?
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
It's amazing what DD has done with this franchise
It wasn’t long ago that the Tigers were begging – BEGGING! – JuanGone to sign a long-term contract here, and guys like Bobby Higginson were being touted as the cornerstone of “building a team the right way.”
Now, we have the top starter in all of baseball, had the top setup man & closer last season, have solid 2-4 guys in the pitching rotation, and even with VMart out, have top 2-3 lineup in the game.
Money talks, and building a winner walks. DD is the MAN
He should get one regardless
Even if the boys can’t seal the deal he put all the pieces on the table that he possibly could to make it happen.
what's wrong with bobby higginson?
Every day each of us says the dumbest thing we are going to say that day.
qwantz.com
And so it begins:
https://twitter.com/#!/si_vault/status/161918268775481344/photo/1
Man, Prince was a really cute, fat little kid!
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
I can't believe that chubby little kid
Who used to get everybody to go early to Tiger Stadium in 92-93 to watch him hit moon balls, is now the top slugger in the game, and on our team.
Of course, VMart's son is pretty cute
But a little young to do anything other than run the bases yet
Just wow! Welcome aboard, Fielder.
It seems fitting that her would come here. It’s too bad about Miggy, but maybe we will get him back for the playoffs. Can you imagine that line up? A pitchers worst nightmare!
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
What happened to Miggy?????
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Miggy to 3rd?
Not sure I see this happening. Ingey still has this year left on his contract and is still good enough defensively to play every day and bats well enough to hit 8 or 9.
With V-Mart out, why wouldn’t Prince and Miggy just split the DH/1B roles, while in the process keeping the wear and tear off a bit.
Castellanos is still a year or two out, so why run Miggy over there at a more physically demanding position if you don’t have to for 2012. I shudder to think of all the doubles into the corner Prince and Miggy would give up when on the field together.
Love the bold move though. And I will celebrate and thank Mr. Illitch tonight by eating Little Caesars.
IMHO
Miggy does better when he plays in the field, and if someone has the stats to either support or refute this I would love to see them. Eye-test-wise, he seems happier when he is playing defense to go along with his hitting.
The party is on, my friend
He hasn't played enough games at DH to make an accurate assessment
But the samples point toward this being the case so far.
Inge bats well enough to hit 8 or 9
If he’s hitting in Toledo.
He batted .197/.265/.283/.548 in the majors last season.
And for those who want him coming off the bench, he was .154/.294/.462/.756 as a PH or defensive replacement in 2011.
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Juan Gonzalez
was traded for and didn’t want to be here. He had a really good year after he left then his numbers dove down again.
so...
1. Ajax
2. Boesch
3. Cabrera
4. Fielder
5. Peralta
6. Avila
7. DY
8. Santiago/Raburn
9. Inge/Kelly
Or somewhere along those lines? Drools…
Raburn-Santiago '12
And Raburn before
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delmon young
dont be so negative about boesch….but as i said the tigers should sign fielder…you hear it here 1st….delmon young may be traded…possibly in the matt garza deal…dont be shocked
by paul wall 1962 on Jan 24, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
While the Cubs do need at least one more outfielder
I cannot imagine an NL team wanting Delmon Young. He’s got “DH” practically tattooed on his tongue, having been top-five in errors committed in the OF in four out of five full MLB seasons and leading the AL in OF errors in 2008.
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I've figured it all out
It’s cuz I had Little Caesars yesterday for the first time in over 3 months…
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Yep, you gave Illitch the extra $5 he needed to get this deal done :P
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by rif23 on Jan 24, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Nice
But I have a gut feeling this was going to happen anyway. A $214 million contract doesn’t come together in a week as a reaction to an injury when your team is still the favorite to win the division.
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by TigersFan1957 on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think the Tigers would've gotten Pujols either way
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Yeah, well we said that about Fielder too
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 25, 2012 7:33 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
too true
but damn it feels so good
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Castellanos on the trading block?
or do they wait to see what miggy looks like at 3b?
No
Castellanos is 2 years away.
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by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
ive heard the same
that he could be moving to the OF.
by dominator039 on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Innnteresting
hadn’t heard that. But that makes sense
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or if he stays at 3rd
by the time Castellanos is up…. VMart’s contract could be done and Miggy could be back to 1st (if he ever even goes to 3rd). So 3rd base should be open for him.
Keep him in the fold
I hate to say it, but it’s possible that Miggy is older than we think he is. It’s just a fact of life with Carribbean & South American players. Plus, once BB players get to a certain time in their careers, the drop in production can be precipitous. Castellanos too talented to get rid of.
Cabrera will still be >>>>> Castellanos in 2-3 years
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I hope you're right
BC then the Tigers are in a very enviable spot.
But I keep reading that Castellanos not ready yet, and we don’t know what the future will bring, so I say the Tigers are better off to continue grooming him, and if we don’t need him in 3 years, great!!!
Cubs fans are kicking themselves
The belief here is that Theo brought in Dale Sveum, who has never managed above single (maybe double) – A ball, specifically because it would get Prince to Wrigley.
Wasn't Dale Sveum the interim manager for the Brewers when they fired Ned Yost?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, holy shit you guys
Detroit just got fucking terrifying.
Also, I’ll be at Comerica for Opening Weekend, you guys should come say hi to me and protect me from your less-awesome Tiger fan bretheren.
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The only time I've ever seen Tiger's fans get rowdy with an outsider
Is when the fan of the other team get’s in their face first.
by MakeItTrizzle on Jan 24, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
I've never had a bad experience at Comerica
but I’ve never been there when Boston has also been there, only ever gone for White Sox games.
Also, the White Sox are 0-21 when I’ve been in attendance, no matter where they’ve been. You’re welcome.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks :)
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by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I love that the AL has all six of the best first basemen in Baseball
Even if two of them are technically playing third now.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I've been to a few Boston games at Comerica
I’ve never seen anyone giving the Boston fans too hard a time. Obviously, there are a few bad apples in any bunch, but I don’t think you’ll run into any problems.
Good to hear
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
My GF is from Boston
We live in DC but when we get back to Detroit for Tigers/Sox games she doesn’t get nearly as much crap as I catch in Boston.
Then again I catch crap in Boston just for being from Michigan, whether I’m at a game or not. It’s weird.
by MakeItTrizzle on Jan 24, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I catch crap for being from New England in Michigan, so I get it.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen classes trash
There was a drunk asshole in the standing room section behind me at a game last season. I was in the handicap section with my grandpa in his wheelchair and the ushers had to take my seat for a couple of minutes because a woman was having a heat stroke. This guy was screaming at them to get her out of there so he could see the game and then spent the last few innings cussing loudly with a bunch of kids sitting near by. This was the Verlander v. Weaver game.
Call me crazy...
…But I’d still like to see Delmon bat 3rd. He flourishes when he gets nothing but fastballs to hit. If you bat him down 6-7-8, he’ll go right back to being what the Twins had, because Gardy is so stubborn.
I’m thinking opening day lineup as:
1. A.Jax/CF
2. B.Boesch/RF
3. Delmon/LF
4. Miggy/1B
5. Princey/DH
6. Peralta/SS
7. Avila/C
8. Raburn/Santiago -2B
9. Inge/Kelly – 3B
Avila behind Peralta only to put a righty bat between Prince and Alex, and break up a situaltional lefty hotspot.
Delmon Young is the Pedro Cerrano of this team apparently
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by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
That is the second reference I've heard to that name and I have no idea who that is
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Would the MLive comment "Pudge Cerrano don't like breaking balls" make more sense if I do?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
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by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
And all this time I thought someone was trying to say something in Spanish and spelled it wrong
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Since you said it was ok...
You’re crazy.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair point. 'Flourish' is a relative term, given his 2011 Twins #s.
I just fear if you don’t bat him with protection, his numbers won’t justify having him out on the field.
He’s also traditionally a slow-starter, and for a guy who doesn’t walk much at all he could be a big hole in the lineup for weeks/months. Hopefully a platoon will work in LF if that’s the case.
I am besides myself. This is the best news of the decade.
Ready for a Tigers dynasty!
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by detfaninindiana on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions
Congrats to the 2012 AL Central Champs
Twins suck
Tribe sucks
Sox rebuilding
Royals are always 2-3 years away
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
by Go Twins! on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
brb
I have a bushel of eggs I need to count so I can see how many chickens I’ll have.
or
Nobody wins the division in January.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
True, but seriously it just got a lot tougher for everybody else
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
I remember people handing us the division and world series title before 2008 started
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
+∞
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Jan 24, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Still, the atmosphere does have that January/February 2008 feel to it
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the atmospheric make up hasn't changed that much in 4 years.
Maybe some more pollutants…
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
Realistic Randy.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Pitching
The big difference between now and 2008 is that our pitching is a safer bet. JV regresses a little, but not a log. I see Fister getting even better and Max and Porcello at least matching what they did last year.
by Sutelc on Jan 24, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Fister getting better is nearly impossible
Dude was really good last year.
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by momotigers on Jan 24, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
His W/L record should hopefully get better
Otherwise, nope.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Feb. 19 / 23
cannot get here soon enough.
by GreatGooglyMoogly on Jan 24, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions
I was thinking the same thing, but that was because my reasons to watch Venezuelan winter ball ended on Sunday
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Thinking outside the box here.
But what does this mean when we need to resign Miggy and JV?
I would kind of assume it means that resigning Miggy would not be a good choice and not possible anyways.
But really, who knows if DD and Illitch are still around.
I don't think we were gonna re-sign Miggy anyway.
He would probably want more than we were gonna pay.
I think we can keep Verlander, but I would feel better if the Yankees had a great rotation by then.
by thepartybird on Jan 24, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Verlander is signed through 2014
Cabrera is signed through 2015
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At the very least we pay to keep JV right?
I know sometimes you gotta let guys go but this is kind of a special circumstance.
I dont see why we dont keep both
or make extensions to their deals now. They’ll definetly wanna be Tigers for life now, seeing as the organization is looking to win, now and in the future
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no doubt
get that man signed ASAP
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I wonder about Verlander's arm...
He’s putting a lot of mileage on it, with high pitch counts and innings totals. You gotta wonder if they’ll try that hard to keep him around after 2014. He’ll be 32 and older starting in 2015. Maybe he holds up forever, but I wouldn’t be surprised if his arm flies into the stands one day.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he's Nolan Ryan 2.0
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as a plus however
Is the Tigers absolute refusal to pitch him on short rest. Since they always give him time to fully recover after each start, they feel it is okay to let him go longer each start than some other pitchers might.
Each game he starts, he begins from a fully-rested state instead of partially depleted from the previous game.
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by Baroque on Jan 24, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
also his delivery
is really nice so that should help some too
by dominator039 on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Great points, all.
It’s not that he CAN’T be the next Nolan Ryan. But practically any pitcher can end up with an injury. I’m not saying he’s going to suffer TJ and it’s a foregone conclusion, but the more you pitch, the higher the injury risk.
I took a look at the IP leaders from 2005 to 2009. Quite a few names in the top-30 who had DL time with their pitching arm: Johan (elbow bone spurs, shoulder), Burnett (pitching shoulder), Harang (pitching forerm), Lackey (out 2012), Marquis (debris in elbow), Doug Davis (elbow), Webb (shoulder x3), Peavy (shoulder). Heck, even Jaime Moyer had TJ, though obviously he’s an odd duck and is super-old. There aren’t the only DL stints in the top-30 IP from 2005-2009, just the pitching arm-related ones. But that’s 9 out of top-30 in IP, basically a third.
Verlander’s clean mechanics will help. Only going on full rest will help (though what about playoffs? and extra IP from the playoffs?). I truly hope he continues forever and becomes a HOFer. But do I fully trust a 32-year-old enough to pay $20 million per season for five years? Not really.
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The more you pitch, the more stamina you build up
“it’s when you baby your arms that you wind up with a bunch of baby arms.”
Nolan Ryan, 2010
"King of Minutiae"
Nolan Ryan was a freak.
Actually read my last post. One-third of the guys who pitched the most innings over five years had pitching arm related injuries. They’re pitching a lot and would have stamina, you’d think, if they log the most innings. But they still got hurt.
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I wonder how that would compare to all major league eligible pitchers
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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
I was asking the same thing
And I hope we can, because I really like JV and Miggy
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's possible we hold on to both still
It’s not like either is drastically underpaid. How much more will another team be willing to give these guys?
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Miggy and Prince play for the Tigers here.
by Buddahfan on Jan 24, 2012 4:59 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
This makes me sad everytime I see it.
CoPa is nice and all…. but man….
just imagine how many homers would've been hit to that short porch in right (or out for that matter)
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All I have to say
HOLY… FUCKING… SHIT
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With Pujols Now An Angel
its going to be one heck of a year in the AL MVP battle.
The were in the same division previously
And Joey Votto won it in 2010 and Braun in 2011 FYI
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
I think it'll be between Pujols and Bautista
Verlander/Prince/Cabrera will split votes just like Ellsbury/Gonzalez/Pedroia do. There aren’t any other huge names in Anaheim or Toronto.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Pujols will do that well
Maybe it’s just me. I feel like it’ll be between Gonzalez and Bautista, with Bautista finally winning one (assuming the BJs don’t suck)
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by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
They got a lot better
but in the East everyone beats everyone, I don’t see their win total going up that much.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's just sour grapes.
There really are no split votes. There are 10 spots on the ballot.
1st place = 14 points
2nd place = 9 points
3rd place = 8 points
4th place = 7 points
………………………
10th place = 1 point.
Yes I know
but there’s also undeniable favoritism. I’m not saying one guy will split his votes between two people, but two guys who like the Tigers could vote for two different guys, while two guys who like the Angels can only vote for Pujols.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Each voter puts 10 different players on his ballot.
They ain’t splitting nothing. They can vote Verlander 1st, Cabrera 2nd, Fielder 3rd, then whatever
But what if one guy goes Verlander/Cabby/Prince
and the other guys goes Prince/Cabby/Verlander.
That’s all I meant by “splitting votes.”
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
They still get all those points
They don’t just vote for one person.
I know that
my point is they don’t get as many points as Pujols, who gets two 1st place votes from the Anaheim guys.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
AL Central
Thanks for playing, See ya in 2015!
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I hope this reemerges on real TV very soon
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I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Ozzie Guillen
Who tweeted about that like 5 minutes after Prince signing blew up. Oh Ozzie, I will miss you so…
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i won't
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
just a little bit
just wait til next year… Miggy Prince V-Mart 3-4-5
/drooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Holy shitballs....
That’s a nice surprise after a 3 hour hiatus from cell contact!
I shudder to think about the D, but I squeal like a teenage girl at a Justin Bieber concert when I think about the O.
That’s the way to shake off the winter doldrums baby!
Fielders a decent 1B
and Miguel probably could play some 3B. If anything, this gives Miguel a year to lose some weight
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Remember how I said the Tigers couldn't sign anyone that would scare pitchers into going after Miggy?
Yeah… never mind.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
and just imagine V-Mart with Prince and Miggy
probably start getting called Yankees West…
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If all three of them were healthy and well...
Plus a nice pitching group, plus Avila and Peralta, we’d be well past the Yankees.
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by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Looking Forward To Big Year From Boesch
I just hope it extends through the playoffs
With Boesch in the 2-hole...over/under on runs scored - 175?
//over-optimism
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If I'm over-optimistic, I'd say it's about 290 - 300
If we can get good outings from Scherzer and Rick, it’s gonna be tough for anyone to beat us.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think we can score anywhere from 850 - 870 runs,
And pitching has the potential to be just as good. Put it all together, you’ve got yourself a championship team.
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by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely not saying it will happen, but I can dream right?
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by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Fielder covers the loss of Martinez and regression by Avila and Peralta
800 runs for
750 runs against
88-74
They win the AL Central
3 BF was one of my favorite Detroit Tigers seasons- right until the end.
Oh I think we're past the Yankees right now
Our starting pitching, plus set up & closer, better than the Yankees (seriously – CC Sabathia would be our number two starter), we’re better at catcher (Avila > Posada replacement), 1st (Prince > Texiera), second I would say is a toss up (Peralta = Cano), I guess I would give them SS though Jeter is aging fast, and Miggy >>> A-Rod.
In the outfield, Granderson > Jackson, but then what do they have? Bret Gardner?
We are ahead of them right now.
oh oops got that backwards
and yeah I guess I don’t pay enough attention to Cano’s stats, they are very good. Though with Jhonny at SS, I think I would take him at 29 over 37 y/o Jeter right now.
Fixed
probably start getting called Yankees MIDWest…
Because the Yankees West are the Anaheim Angels.
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No, that team in the Bronx . . .
. . . is the Tigers East . . .
by rea on Jan 24, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
or maybe now they'll walk both Cabrera and Fielder
Whoever bats behind will get RBI’s galore
fuck it im gonna say it WE GOT A DYNASTY BREWING
"Be an analyst Skip dont be a douchebag"
-Terrel Suggs
nice article from april, 2011
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=6389680
Detroit Tigers: 2011 AL Central Champs
Just think Tigers Fans
9 years of THIS!
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2013
Imagine the poor pitcher who has to face Avila, Cabrera, Fielder, Martinez, Boesch, Peralta.
(Yes, I know everybody loves hitting Boesch second, but I’ve got a thing for Avila’s OBP.)
There isn’t a single key hitter in the lineup who’s up for free agency until 2014, either. Seems like virtually the entire team turns into pumpkins in 2015/16.
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by johnmoz on Jan 24, 2012 5:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Peralta's Contract
2013 Detroit Tigers *$6,000,000 $6M Team Option, $500k Buyout
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/peraljh01.shtml#contracts
by TigersFan1957 on Jan 24, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
When John says no one is up for free agency until 2014
That means that everyone is signed/under club control through 2013. Including Peralta, if they exercise his option.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I See That Now
Thanks, I missed that, I looked at his 2015/16 comment.
by TigersFan1957 on Jan 25, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
Even then, Peralta is the only one
Everyone else is signed/club controlled at least through the 2015 season.
The worst part about this signing
is going to be the crowing from MLivers about how they were right all along.
Unless the worst part about this signing is actually $214 million over 9 years. Close call.
yeah, it's gonna come back to bite the Tigers at some point
but for now, holy crap.
Wait til October...
So why didn't Detroit trade for Scutaro?
I have to imagine you guys could have come up with someone better than Mortenson, and it’s not like your middle infield is stellar.
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-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
Because he was too expensive
/Lynn Henning logic
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So does this mean that we can stop the Yoenis Cespedes watch?
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NEVERRRRRR!!!
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Jan 24, 2012 5:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Because we aim to please
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by MuleRules on Jan 24, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hey Hawk
You know who gone? The ChiSox gone. From relevance, that is.
Something tells me he’ll be “buzzing the tower” tonight at a South Side Irish Pub.
The ChiSox are seriously gone
Talking to the Red Sox about Floyd, maybe Beckham.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Oh PS fun Hawk facts:
In 1986, his one season at the helm in Chicago, did he not only fire Tony LaRussa, who is surely the top field manager of this generation, but he also fired a young & upcoming Dave Dombrowski, who with this signing has a legit shot at winning his second World Series as GM.
Thanks, Hawk!!!
Always rec'd
Cramming always encouraged.
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classy
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
dag gummit
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
fire larussa!
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
My best contribution to BYB.
Other than the Anteater ripping the Twinkie in half.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 25, 2012 3:16 AM EST up reply actions
Possibly my favorite thing on here
Good work.
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1st comment from ESPN.com on the signing of Prince Fielder
Ok… We can do this. All we need to do is buy 42,800,000 “Hot-n-Ready” pizzas. I’ll grab one on the way home. Who’s with me?!
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Not that it wasn't doubted that much, but Miguel confirms he'll move back to third
http://www.liderendeportes.com/Noticias/Beisbol/Miguel-Cabrera—-Volvere-a-tercera-base-.aspx
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Probably platoon with Inge/Kelly
and DH some days?
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"La llegada de Fielder nos beneficiará"
LOL! That Miggy is such a card!
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
I like Miguel saying 3B is his natural position.
I love that guy.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
Who's going to be saying that when a Hot And Ready costs $15 next year?
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Cabrera 3B
You are asking for an injury to Cabrera playing him at the hot corner. I don’t believe anyone is saying this, so that may qualify me as insane, but I smell blockbuster trade involving Cabrera here and I am not “ON” anything! LOL
not a chance
you just created the best 3-4 combo in Miggy/Fielder… you don’t turn around and trade one of them
Raburn-Santiago '12
Besides (and I know someone is going to try to argue with me on this), I say Miggy's the better player
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As Long As Miggy Is Wearing A Tigers Uniform
He will always be my favorite Tigers player
JV here
But can’t argue with Miggy
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by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
not a chance
wasn’t a snowball’s chance in the hot place they were signing Fielder until just a bit ago either lol
The won't trade him
But you’re right about high injury risk. Just look at Youkilis last year.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
I’ve wanted Cherington to trade him for pitching all offseason.
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-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
V-Mart will be Traded...not Cabrera
Someone else speculated Tigers would sign Fielder and trade Cabrera for pitching / defense two weeks ago…based on Cabrera’s off-field challenges and desire to play field – not DH.
Cabrera will DH this year except the 30 Interleague games – unless he loses significant weight.
V-Mart is likely to be traded next year though…
They're not going to sign "protection" for Cabrera and then turn around and trade Cabrera.
by ivantopumpyouup on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
It would have to be a blockbuster
To trade Cabrera and I haven’t a clue where they would move him. Just a feeling that came over me and I didn’t even eat a Lil Caesar’s pepperoni pizza either! lol
love the signing, hate the terms
While I clamored for Fielder, I didn’t want a 9 year deal with no out clause. What happens when Boesch, Jackson, Fister and Avila need to get paid?
Did the club consult Miggy before making this move? I cannot see him playing third in 2013.
Do you know there is no out clause?
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
that is what is being reported
he’s ours until 2020, when he’s pushing 3 bills and is 36 years old.
There Will Be A Lot Of "Out" Clauses
like 35+ a season
Outta here baby
If it gets....
…. Inge outta town I am all for Miggy at 3rd but pray for the hammys!
I wonder if this signing has done anything for the ByB page views?
Kurt could be the happiest Tiger fan around.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions
click the little rainbow thingy at the bottom of the page
and gape in awe.
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Look at that!
I always thought that thing meant you were pro gay marraige.
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
lol, thanks.
I love that kind of stuff!
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
*jaw drops*
How does this compare to the trade deadline?
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we set the one-hour record between 3 and 4
and this will set the one-day record, which was around 35,000 thanks to trade stuff
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
The Washington ones were probably me trying to post a damn fanshot when the news broke
Stupid Panera internet
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I swear I had a premonition
Because I was frantically jumping back and forth between MLBTR and BYB all day during class, surely running up an inordinate page view count somewhere in the millions (DC)
by MakeItTrizzle on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Wait where is that?
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.sitemeter.com/stats.asp?site=s12blessyouboys
those are unofficial numbers. we have a different system for the official counts.
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhhhh
Thanks. I’m surprisingly interested in this stuff :)
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
What is Plesac saying you guys separated from? You guys won the division by 15 games last season.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 24, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions
Yes, but not low enough that you guys wouldn’t be the favorites.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 24, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
*droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooools*
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
We'll trade you Youkilis for pitching
Youk at 3rd, Miggy to DH, Prince at 1st.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Youk should be Dh'ing
Dude is always hurt
True
WHy do you think I want him dealt?
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I would
but they don’t have anyone I want.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
He wouldn't be hurt as much if he were a Tiger . . .
. . . Porcello would stop picking on him.
Who?
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
don't you already have austin jackson?
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
But we could use a left fielder.
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by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
My head just exploded
I just saw that this happened. I still can not comprehend.
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with bullshit
This morning before the rumors started
I was looking at all the Free Agents left and was feeling sick about it, then I looked at Prince Fielders stats and started dreaming about getting him. Freaking unreal that we landed him a few hours later.
Eh, I'm excited but not super excited.
The sheer weight of the contract bothers me.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
It's a lot of money
but we’ll have some great value guys like Turner and Castellanos coming up in the next few years to balance it out.
And this is why you need a strong farm system
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by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
I see what you did there.
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by 77bestrookieclassever on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
well well
i guess mike must have read what us tiger fans wanted…..just so glad we have an owner who loves his team and is willing to do anything to win! just one question….who’s your tiger!
PUDGE!
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
(But if you want current Tigers, then JV and Miggy)
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Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not fair
It doesn’t say “Tigers”, it says “Tiger”. Otherwise, the answer to that question would almost always be JV and Miggy :P
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
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by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, then. JV.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Lol I was kidding :P
But cool, me too!
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
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by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
I like the 'Twisted Fister' Doug Fister
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I could be wrong here, but
I am not all ice cream an puppies here. I need to see the terms of the contract. I am loving life today, I just want to see how giddy I am going to be in 2015
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 6:02 PM EST reply actions
BOOOOOO
Boo this man
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry,
I’m happy today, but I just want to see an exit strategy. 214M is a huge number.
Can we trade with Mets/Dodgers in a few years?
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm actually completely fine with that
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you 100%
But you blew our dog icon thing we had goin’.
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
I get paid to think about long-term finances
Tough for me to think any different. I am happy today for what it is worth.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Illich has billions and billions.
Maybe he’s in a hurry to spend it.
So did Bill Davidson.
How did that work out after Mr. Davidson moved on to greener fairways?
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
He won 3 championships
So I’d say, not bad at all.
Very true
I’m thinking down the road.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
We could very well win a few championships also
We got some great value guys coming up in the next few years in Jacob Turner, Nick Castellanos, Danry Vazquez, ect.
We can afford those high salary guys just as long as we keep those great prospects in the pipe-line.
In nine years
Prince Fielder is 36. We’re not talking 41-year-old Pujols or 42-year-old A-Rod here.
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Believe me.
I am a life long Tigers fan. I pray everything works out. I just cannot wrap my mind around 214M for 9, With no balance and bad defense.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 24, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
In the long run we're all dead
That’s right, the world’s ending in 2012. SIGN ALL THE FREE AGENTS
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by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Somewhere Jim Leyland is basking in a deal afterglow cigarette and begins making his lineup card by carving it into on a tree
Because Leyland is a badass
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
by Go Twins! on Jan 24, 2012 6:03 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I find this disturbing on many levels
Mainly, it looks like we are starting 0-7.
"i think it will be mostly feast the rest of the year,"
if I recall
this was done by Samara and quite possibly was 2008.
confirmation:
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
And he is also thinking "This is the year I lose this furry little ba#$%^!*"
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
Best scenario
Play Miggy at third. Have Inge slip into Miggy’s uniform right before the defensive innings. I think they look alike and Inge should fit into the uniform pretty well.
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Woooo Hooooo!
Just got home! Love it. I was depressed by the V-Mart news, but this more than makes up for it. Good day to be a Tigers fan!
AHHH!!!
I turned on the radio and only heard that they finally have the DH situation figured out. I figured it was Damon. Then a few minutes later after the commerical break, they said Prince Fielder is coming to Detroit! I almost drove off the road in excitement!! I’ve never been so happy to be a Detroit Tigers Fan!!
Welcome to the D Prince Fielder! This is your kingdom.
Don't drive off the road. :P
That wouldn’t be nice
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by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
counterpunch?
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions
The White Sox don't have the pieces
maybe for Floyd and A. Ramirez together.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
we did just acquire a shit ton of young pitching.
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Is it ML-ready
and all starting pitching?
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
no not yet (but Nestor Molina is fairly close)
no.
but a package centered around floyd … doubt the sox are willing to raise the payroll but maybe this move for Prince motivates Reinsdorf.
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking KW goes into full rebuild mode
Floyd and Ramirez for Iglesias, Brentz, Ranaudo, Jacobs, Vazquez
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
i would agree with this if contracts were coming off the books
we still have dunn and rios for a few more years. plus, they extended danks.
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Dunn and Rios aren't good though
Dunn maybe could bounce back, but Rios is basically a dead body at the plate.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
i should have clarified that we still have to pay them for a few more years.
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 24, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
More from Miguel
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http://bit.ly/wXwCXU
http://bit.ly/x2yOxF
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Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
First quote:
“The possibility of moving to third base was already [discussed]. Next year we’ll be playing 30 interleague games”
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
I completely forgot about this.
Suddenly …the fog begins to lift.
by GreatGooglyMoogly on Jan 24, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Second quote:
“I want to bat third and Prince Fielder to bat fourth but that’s the manager’s decision”
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
from google translate...
Tweet 1: “The possibility of moving to third base was already latent. Next year we will play 30 interleague games”
Tweet 2: “I want to be the third bat and Prince (Fielder) is the fourth but those are decisions of the manager”
Tweet 3: “I knew this 5 days ago, I had a conversation with the manager for the possibility of moving to 3B and have a better team”
Tweet 4: “Some people forget that this is my position, 3rd Base, I want a better team”
by dominator039 on Jan 24, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Or that too.
Rough phrasing, but the gist of it’s right.
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Miggy says he's moving to third because "I'm too young to be a DH"
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
For those of you wondering...
1) Yes, there WILL be a new Venezuelan Mafia picture this year, even though we’re down to only two functional members.
2) No, Prince Fielder will NOT be in the Mafia, but I’ll find something else to Photoshop him into
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
uhm the unstoppable force and the immovable object
well technically they’re both the immovable object.
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
The Unstoppably Immovable Object Force
or UIOF for short
by MakeItTrizzle on Jan 24, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's a college in indiana
no wait — that’s IUPUI
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Which is pronounced "ewie pewie" for those who don't know.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
And I thought Oral Roberts
was the worst name in the Summit League. Go Grizzlies!
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Sandwich Twins
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
BAMFs
Boesch, Avila, Miggy, Fielder
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Bad Ass Mo-Fos
I like it.
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Our 2-3-4-5 hitters?
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
This is Leyland we're talking about
More like 6-8-4-5
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahaha.
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
by Brand New Hero on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Put Inge at 2nd
He’s an infielder. An infielder fields the ball and throws to 1st base. He can play OF too and maybe catch a little. The Tigers are going to be loaded this coming season. Injuries won’t be as big a set back. Pitching……yeah pitching. We still might have to do something about that, but now we could make a deal with someone.
by Parrothead Mike on Jan 24, 2012 6:29 PM EST reply actions
Give Raburn LF long-term
And use Inge/Santi at 2B. Sanit’s marginally better against RHB anyways.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chicks Dig the Long Ball
(also the name of my wiffleball team)
by playoffbeard on Jan 24, 2012 6:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Judging by the videos they are showing on mlb network . . .
The Tigers went with Prince Fielder because he could replace Victor and Little Victor.
I am not a fan of Delmon Young.
Wave goodbye to Delmon Young
FA eligible in 2013
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
And Miggy
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
I hate you...
hahahah thanks for the correction. I would’ve jumped all over someone for doing that too.
Not really
We’re set for 2012 and 2013, don’t lose anybody at all irreplaceable (Valverde, Coke and Delmon are free agents in 2013). Verlander’s up in 2014, then virtually the entire roster turns into free agent pumpkins in 2015 and 2016.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Alright, no offense
But this is BS. What’s “heavy” vs. “normal”? What is the y-axis supposed to be? Is this all players? What’s the source? Looks like hogwash to me.
Apparently "heavy" means "weighs more than 3.25 lbs. per inch of height"
So obviously this includes David Eckstein, since he was like 15 inches tall.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, Fangraphs was pretty butthurt by this signing for some reason
I don’t get it.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fangraphs seems to be a group of really touchy people, in my experience
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Billy Beane didn't do it
So it sucked.
I’M KIDDING, I’M KIDDING. Everyone knows they crush on Jack Z now.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
clearly, wins are not important to them.
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I guess they feel that if wins aren't important to a pitcher, they shouldn't be important to a team either
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The explanation for this
is incredibly simple. “Heavy” players are more likely to become DHs earlier in their career, and fangraphs methodology HEAVYILY punishes (no pun intended) DHing in terms of overall value. Because these players are converting from fielding positions to DH, their value plummets in the fangraph’s metric.
Trending On Twitter In Los Angeles
Detroit Tigers
Prince Fielder
LOL
The black hole of suck, just got fixed
We traded Inge/Kelly for Prince Fielder. No team in baseball could have, in any way, received a bigger improvement.
This is H.U.G.E.
If your parents didn't have any children, chances are you won't either
Remember when I said we need to add "A couple of bats"
I think this qualifies
You want credit?
M’kay … you da man.
Feel better? Whatever.
Mr I has suprised me. I’ll never question him again.
If your parents didn't have any children, chances are you won't either
I was just trying to be friendly.
No credit needed. You’re one of my favorite poster here. We usually agree about most stuff.
Oh, hey guys
What’s happening?
oh yeah!
Baseball: It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart.
by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 24, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions
Picture this infield, and LOVE IT
1B Fielder
2B Raburn
SS Peralta
3B Cabrera
might as well keep going
RF Boesch
CF AJax
LF Delmon
C Avila
DH Who cares?
"King of Minutiae"
Delmon is your DH
Cespedes is in LF.
If your parents didn't have any children, chances are you won't either
by Singledigit on Jan 24, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
right... when he needs to
he can work on that now all he wants, but I don’t think that happens until Vmart is back in the picture and you need to figure out how to get all 3 in the lineup
Raburn-Santiago '12
i hope
that miggy isnt playing third. dont think hes a fit at this point in his career.
a Michigan State and Michigan blog: http://onrivalries.blogspot.com/
He definitely fits
There’s plenty of room over there
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What he lacks in range . . .
he makes up for in width . . .
Miggy and Jhonny
will be at least as good defensively as A-rod and Jeter, right?
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
i'm pretty sure that means automatic gold gloves
but since ARod and Jeter weren’t the Yankees to retire today…maybe not
by GreatGooglyMoogly on Jan 24, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Not good for Porcello
But great for Verlander. He might win 30 games with that line-up.
Payroll
Well, it’s at about $ 131.5 mil before any insurance money kicks in for Victor’s injury
In 2013
- Victor comes back
- Potential free agents are Valverde, Delmon, and Laird
- TEN arbitration eligible players
- Club option on Dotel
"King of Minutiae"
For the next two years at least we are pretty much set...
I imagine they let Delmon and Laid both walk next season. IDK what will happen with Valverde, but even without him… man I’m excited.
President of the Tony Scheffler Fan Club
Oh, should I?
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
You still need a closer
Ask the Rangers about that.
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I say grab Cespedes and we're set
Screw anything else…if that happens, we’re champs. No way around it.
1. Jackson CF – R
2. Cespedes LF – L
3. Cabby 3B – R
4. Prince 1B – L
5. Boesch RF – L
6. Peralta SS – R
7. Avila C – L
8. Young DH – R
9. Santiago 2B -S
Can you say pitchers worst nightmare???
Oh then we have the world’s best pitcher JV, as well as Fister, Scherzer, Porcello, Papa Grande, Albequerque (sp), and Benoit. The other pitching spots could all be given to my grandma and it wouldn’t matter…although I’m happy with the platoon we have on our current roster better to fill those positions lol.
Not too mention our bench has
Inge, Victor (2013), Dirks, Kelly, and Raburn
Alburquerque is out the first half
due to elbow surgery back in December. But we signed Octavio Dotel and he’ll be a good 7th inning guy.
by dominator039 on Jan 24, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
It just occured to me
that we just lost our 1st round draft pick to the Brewers. Still freaking great though. We really can’t over-slot anymore anyway.
Well screw that
Call the deal off!
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think you did
New CBA rules, only the Phillies gave up their 1st.
We had a laugh about it on OTM
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I wish that were so
From Mlbtraderumors:
This June the Tigers will surrender their first round pick (27th overall) to the Brewers, who offered Fielder arbitration earlier in the offseason. Milwaukee will also obtain a second compensatory pick for losing Fielder, the seventh overall selection in the 2002 draft.
I do not understand the new CBA at all.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't really understand the old one, so nothing's changed for me
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
It is actually simplified from the old one
but the transition rules for this year muck things up a bit.
The Tigers do lose their first rounder to Milwaukee, and the Brewers do get the Tigers No 1 plus a supplemental pick. So, the Tigers first pick will be a second rounder.
Each team will have a certain amount to spend, and that amount is based on how many picks they have and where they pick. So the Tigers also lose some “cap room” to spend over slot on players in the next draft.
"King of Minutiae"
Yeah, I knew the draft rules were dumb
I think this is going to screw a lot of smaller-market teams over
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
poor david has nothing to write about now!
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 24, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
I’m willing to bet that Dombrowski finds a way to game the draft this year.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta do this
CF Jackson
LF Raburn
RF Boesch
3B Cabrera
1B Fielder
SS Peralta
C- Avila
DH Young
2B Santiago
"King of Minutiae"
I think I like this one the most so far
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
I like it, here's mine
2B Santiago
SS Peralta
3B Cabrera
1B Fielder
RF Boesch
C Avila
LF Raburn/Young (omg I have to pick between these two? ugh)
DH Young (Ya, I’ll go with Raburn)
CF Jackson
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
I call this the "fuck it, we'll kick your ass anyway" lineup
1B Fielder
CF Jackson
SS Peralta
LF Raburn
2B Santiago
DH Young
RF Boesch
C Avila
3B Cabrera
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, Fielder leading off and Miggy batting ninth
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hey man, when they bat around that order, Prince is gonna get some crazy RBI numbers
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
It's crazy enough to work, I bet.
Though I doubt JL is gonna move anyone in the batting order.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
That, sadly is the logic some of the new people are using on OTM
Bat Crawford last so he’s on base in front of Ellsbury.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Tiger fans are so smart
Not to mention, the coolest fans too!
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not going to argue with you on the Tigers board
lets go fight this out on neutral ground, Bleed Cubbie Blue.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
i kinda like this guy.
nothing says “let’s be friends” like collateral damage to a neutral team.
by GreatGooglyMoogly on Jan 24, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
And he posts HIMYM gifs
Think we could trade Schlereth for him?
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
BCB isn't neutral
They have your old GM.
Go to Halo’s Heaven.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Lets Go Tribe?
Or I know! The Padres blog!
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of "fantasy'.....
Cabrera’s third base eligibility should shoot him up to No. 1 overall in fantasy baseball value.
"King of Minutiae"
indeed
even though he won’t be eligible for 5 games (at least on yahoo), but whats that matter really?
by dominator039 on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Excuse me
I need to change my pants.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
This is pretty much what my roster would've been
by ivantopumpyouup on Jan 25, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Here's my line up!
1B Ryan Strieby
2B Ryan Raburn
SS Danny Worth
3B Brandon Inge
CF Clete Thomas
RF Don Kelly
LF Andy Dirks
C Gerald Laird
The bench will have amazing role players though. This line up wins the division!
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
by 13194013 on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
One question
Are you playing 100% Strieby?
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Only if he works with the flex ball
I plan to give him in spring training to strengthen his wrist!
Ohh, and a rec.
Why don't we have Grosberg'd yet as an action?
Can you get on this, Kurt?
While you’re there, might as well add Mlive’d
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
WAIT
Why is Don Kelly playing RF when everyone knows he will be starting on the mound?
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Best part of the day
breaking this new to a co-worker who is a Cleveland fan.
Oh the tears of unfathomable sadness taste delicious
"I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food" - Ron Swanson
by rock n rye on Jan 24, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yee Ha
Cabrera has to play 3rd and inge can cry his ass out of town.No more bottomless pit of suck, What a happy day. (but I’ll be bitching 3 years from now when we can’t afford to sign our own kids)
I am a little worried about that myself
I hope this contract doesn’t put us into the shit, we can’t spend money at random like the Yankees.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, at least we're not talking about Carl Crawford or Jayson Werth
Remember last offseason?
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
True
I’ll say Jayson wasn’t “werth” it in the long run.
And I don’t think Crawford can play on the big stage where everyone is watching him under a microscope. He had the luxury of being a superstar on a small-market team…but once he moved to Boston, and people expected the same results, I think he pressured himself. I’ll look from him to make an adjustment in 2012, just not in the first three games though :)
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
The Sox are notoriously slow starters
expect you guys to sweep.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
I was a thousand percent against signing Crawford last offseason
He’s got a lot of games under his legs on an unforgiving surface in Tampa and his talent won’t age well when his speed starts to decline. I’m glad that we passed on him.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You seem like we would get along well.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Just out of curiosity
How does one become a Lions and Red Sox (and Northwestern) fan? Seems like you were depressed for a really long time.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Dude, put a header on these things!
So they can be deleted once we’ve enjoyed them.
"King of Minutiae"
I hate Crawford so much.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
We can't spend money at random, but Ilitch can
Mike Ilitch has two billion dollars. He wants to win. This is not a bottom-line decision for him, it’s a “I can’t take it with me” decision.
He’s got goofy relationships with most of his kids, I don’t think he’s worried for the most part about leaving them with $1.8 billion vs. $2 billion. Plus, everybody looks at him and thinks “lol bad pizza,” but the combined revenues for all of Ilitch Holdings were over $4 billion in 2010.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Hey, Crazy Bread is delicious!
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And I'm even going to pay extra for the sauce this week
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Get the deep dish pizza!
It’s $7 and actually tastes good, unlike the Hot n Readys
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Most of the time
the deep dish is also hot n ready.
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
I like the Hot n Readys
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
by David Tokarz on Jan 24, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Deep dish is still better
And helps the cause
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like mine doused with parmesan
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
He makes me feel like an idiot
The guy makes a pizza his way and boom, illions of dollars.
Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.
Wow....stunning.
Now hes gonna be stuntin like his daddy in that old Tiger’s D!! Welcome to the Motor City, Prince
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
I wonder what Mr.Illitch is thinking right at this moment ?
He has to be laying in his bed,eyes wide open (with a little bit of anxiety),just SMILING !!!
In my opinion this is the right move if we want to win RIGHT NOW,and the next few years,but what worries me,is that Miguel Cabrera,(my favorite player,and in my opinion,the BEST player in all of MLB),Will not finish his career here in Detroit.I wouldn’t be suprised to see him get traded in three years from now,(sad,but not suprised),I guess I’m thinking WAY to far ahead,and I should just be happy for the moment,Right Now,but I can’t help thinking what will become of my Miguel….Anyways….GO TIGERS…April 5th cannot come soon enough.Congrats BYB’ers,It should be a fun year !!!
Cory Smith
We've got Cabby in the prime of his career
That’s still a ways from now. I wouldn’t get worried, but I agree about this being a “win now” move.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
I have read no comments because there are a billion of them
And I wasn’t able to log on and get to BYB until now, but….
PRINCE FIELDER HOLY CRAP HOW THE HELL DID THAT EVEN HAPPEN WOW
Random nonsense at @Baroque97
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Heard the news break on MLB Network, and found out it was official
My jaw just about hit the floor.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
by Boeschlander on Jan 24, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
My dad (who is a Tigers fan) is actually kind of pissed
but I’m not sure he really gets new-age baseball.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
I heard a teaser on the radio
Said the Tigers are getting one of the best power hitters in baseball. I thought that didn’t sound like Damon, who could it be?
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I was at my best friend's house when I found out on Twitter
She has no idea who Prince Fielder or Dave Dombrowski is, and I apparently by the way I said “The Tigers are signing Prince Fielder” she thought that meant they were trading someone I liked.
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
How much do you now suppose
The Indians regret the Jiminex trade now?
I bet … A LOT.
If your parents didn't have any children, chances are you won't either
Jiminez, even
If your parents didn't have any children, chances are you won't either
They took their best shot
It just turned out Fister was better. Too bad for them.
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, you were right with Jiminex
Makes it sound like a window cleaner, probably more appropriate than calling him a pitcher, at least for last year.
Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.
Better than John Lackey
/crying on the inside.
"There's something out there, beyond the horizon in the corner of your eye. I'm going to find out what it is."
-Thomas Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer.
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 24, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats
Thank you for removing Fielder from the NL and NL Central. Much appreciated.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions
Our pleasure.
And hey, you’ve got a hell of a nice ball park over there.
by frisbeepilot on Jan 24, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone gonna watch Baseball IQ?
They just showed something on Cecil, saying he hit the longest HR ever..off Dan Plesac. The show looks cool!
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
Congrats on the signing!
Mike Ilitch is spending the kids inheritance… but what the hell!? VMart news was a soul crusher.
Deep, deep down, a whole lot of people like the sound of Fielder in Motown. Like the universe just got re-aligned in the right direction a little bit.
HEY GUYS!
WE SIGNED PRINCE FIELDER!!
Sorry, needed to get in on the fun, haven’t had a chance to log on until now. I feel the same way I did after we traded for Miggy.
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And makes some people look kinda stoopid:
http://www.blessyouboys.com/2012/1/9/2694651/sign-fielder-and-move-cabrera-to-third
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Shoot, I made fun of that post today
Before the Fielder business went down, of course. LINK
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, the fact that the thing that MLive and Freep commenters wanted to happen actually happened is a little unnerving
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
At least we know who to blame if this all fails...
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-Jacques Plante
by DetroitSports on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
we weren't going to blame them anyway?
by GreatGooglyMoogly on Jan 24, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Illitch reads MLive?
Doña of the fractured Venezuelan Mafia, haunted by the ghosts of Tigers past
"In baseball, there is what you expect and what you cannot expect, and after that there is what you cannot even imagine." --AG
Rebound! Look out, boys and girls, cuz here we go again!
by SabreRoseTiger on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
It is not the first time I have been completely, utterly wrong . . .
. . . but it might be the least painful.
Seriously whats another 50mil
When you just dropped 200 large!!
The normal make a living, the deranged make history.
by sactwnsteelr on Jan 24, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Timing is everything
Yesterday I thought we might go “beyond stupid”, but that seems unlikely tonight.
by manic in Detroit on Jan 24, 2012 10:01 PM EST reply actions
It's silly to look too far down the road.
2021 is a looooong time from now. You might be dead by then. Baseball might be played by giant japanese mecha cyborgs. Live for the moment.
Prince Fielder in the olde english D?
OH HEEEELLLLLLLLLL YEAH!
Justin Verlander pitching, 2021
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
I take it this one isn't a tank either?
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
yep, looks like a Mad Cat.
Add this to the list of things I know that will never, ever be categories at pub trivia.
I hate the clans.
Worst thing to happen to Battletech, in my opinion. I am a proud Inner Sphere player!
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
How great has the DD and the Tigers front office been in the last 6 months?
Fister, Delmon, Betemit, and now Fielder.
The Tigers really seem committed to winning.
I'm not sold of Fielder being a "great" signing
Fun? For sure.
Helpful? You bet.
Does it live up to the level of Fister for prospects, Delmon and Betemit for nothing…not really. Thos moves actually take some skill and knowledge of the players and your team. All the Fielder signing takes is money. It’s very Yankee-esque. Dont’ get me wrong – I’m thrilled he’s here, but I don’t think it makes DD any better at what he does.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I agree with you here
And I’m a big DD supporter. But this move came from Illitch… I don’t think Dombrowski would have shelled out a contract like this, especially since last week he said Prince wasn’t a fit.
Did we really just sign Prince Fielder? Holllllllllly sh*t.
Brewers fan here.
I know there will be a lot of handwringing about the length of the deal, but, congrats; you are going to love Prince Fielder.
Thanks...
Hearing very mixed reviews on his defense. What’s your take?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
His range is better than you'd think, and he makes one or two "wow" plays a month.
But he’s still solidly below average defensively. He’s probably a little worse defensively than Cabrera. He’ll make most of the routine plays but don’t expect him to save a lot of throwing errors from your other infielders. He hasn’t been very good at scooping a bad throw.
"Well they can't test for LSD, so I started frying on weekends"
Thanks for this
And to me, scooping bad throws is one of the biggest contributions a 1B can make. (Especially if we might have a few errant throws coming from…ahem…3B or …ahem 2B)
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
5 yrears from now this signing will be viewed as the worst in MLB History
Now the Tigers have 3 DH’s this year and 3 next. The deal needed an opt oup based on Fielders wieght….Hope I’m wrong
"Always 1984"
How two players who are AT WORST everyday 1st basemen
magically transform overnight into DHs, I have absolutely no idea.
No idea
But apparently this offseason went from too boring to too exciting overnight.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 25, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Tom Hicks and A-Rod would disagree with you
Honorable mentions to:
Carl Pavano to Yankees
Barry Zito to Giants
Kei Igawa to Yankees
Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle to Rockies
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
I will worry about next year, well, next year.
It isn’t my money. Banners fly forever.
by BeardedPlayoffJesus19 on Jan 25, 2012 12:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
An interesting stat
Prince’s average HR true distance is was a full 10 feet longer than Miggy’s was last year.
Another interesting stat
Comerica Park’s right field and right-center dimensions are actually shallower than those at Miller Park. MOAR HOME RUNS FOR THE PRINCE.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 25, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I saw this earlier somewhere.
Pretty awesome feeling having a beast of a power hitting left handed bat to complement Miggy.
by BeardedPlayoffJesus19 on Jan 25, 2012 12:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Think of it like this
We have the best pitcher in baseball. We have arguably the best right-handed hitter in baseball. Now we have arguably the best left-handed hitter in baseball.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 25, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and in 2013
We will have arguably the best switch hitter in the game back in Victor Martinez. If they can figure out where to put all three, Fister keeps pitching the way he is, and one of the three guys in Porcello, Scherzer or Jacob Turner mature….whew we gots ourselves a championship roster!
It’s might be a far fetched thought right now, but you could possibly have the Lions, Tigers and Red Wings all make it to their respective championship games in ’13!
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Well 3 outta 4 ain't bad
Lions on the upswing (with Stafford … the sky is the limit), Wings leading the Central, and this news! Dang.
Lion fan in the Great Land!
and the Swede
Although he’s looked a little less awesome the last couple games… but even so.
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isn’t it?
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I was SOOO bummed about Martinez's injury (and still am)
But this is AMAZING! Welcome to the Tigers, Mr. Fielder !!!!
Lion fan in the Great Land!
welcome back*
you mean, he did hit some longballs as an 8-year old at old Tiger Stadium (god I miss that place =()
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I like how all of a sudden we have a shitty lineup
Just going around and reading some of the other SB Nation sites and their reactions to this signing. Take, for instance, Lone Star Ball, who is basically convinced that everyone on the team but Miggy and Fielder will regress and the team is actually worse than it was last season.
Sour grapes perhaps? I mean, obviously there are still some holes. But I’m honestly not convinced that defense is going to be as big of an issue that everyone says it is. Maybe it will cost us a run here or there. But you know what? If we’re winning games by scoring lime 10 runs a game, and have a guy like JV or Fister on the mound, then I’m not concerned with giving up a run here or there because Miggy plays bad third base (assuming he goes there permanently).
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
If it makes you feel better about the money:
He’ll still be making less than Ryan Howard next season.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 25, 2012 3:23 AM EST reply actions
After sleeping on it
I now remember that Cabrera’s move from 3B to 1B in 2008 had something to do with Carlos Guillen stinking at 1B. It wasn’t Cabrera’s defense alone at 3B that drove the move. It was the awkward combination of Guillen at 1B and Cabrera at 3B. If we had Prince Fielder at 1B in 2008, we never would of moved Cabrera to 1B.
it was also because Miggy was overweight
And yeah, Carlos was part of the problem… but it was because Miggy just wasn’t good at 3rd anymore
Raburn-Santiago '12
What a way to start the day!
I got home last night and was really tired from radiation and chemo so I went to bed early and didn’t even turn on the computer or TV. I got up to go to work this morning and seriously thought about taking the day off when I turned on ESPN at 5:30. I feel great today! What a day to go to work! What a way to start the day!
by watsonstclair on Jan 25, 2012 6:50 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Heck yeah!
Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Drink, and Fight!
by Brand New Hero on Jan 25, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Brewers fan stopping by to say Congrats Tigers fans
Prince was a joy to watch these last few years and it’ll be fun watching him and Miggy terrify pitchers for the next few years.
For added fun, Play the Prince Fielder Post Game Interview Drinking Game. Take a drink every time he says “ya know.” Protip: You might die.
"Well they can't test for LSD, so I started frying on weekends"
ohhh we love a good drinking game
This will go along nicely with the Rod Allen Drinking Game during the game
Raburn-Santiago '12
Thanks man
It’s a shame he couldn’t have stayed with his old team (I kinda like the Brew Crew) but we’re sure glad he came back to his home base, so to speak.
"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy
I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.
Can we get an update on the Juan Pierre rumors?
Bahahahahahahahahahahahah
3 BF was one of my favorite Detroit Tigers seasons- right until the end.
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