Turner, Castellanos, Smyly among MLB.com’s Top 100 Prospects.
Three players in the Detroit Tigers’ organization were listed among MLB.com’s top 100 prospects. Ranked at 15, right-handed pitcher Jacob Turner was the lone player to rank in the Top 50. Third baseman Nick Castellanos narrowly missed the top half, coming in at No. 51, and left-handed pitcher Drew Smyly cracked the list at No. 82.
Tampa Bay Rays’ pitcher Matt Moore is rated as the top prospect in the nation, edging out Washington’s Bryce Harper, and the Angels’ outfielder Mike Trout, who was last year’s top prospect.
Turner made his major league debut for the Tigers during the 2011 season as a 20-year-old. He struggled in his debut with the Tigers in three starts, putting up an 8.53 ERA, but the Tigers aren’t too worried about those statistics. Turner is the seventh-ranked pitcher and is expected to compete for a spot in the Tigers’ rotation this spring in Lakeland.
Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com had this to say about Turner.
Nick Castellanos is the fifth rated third baseman nationally, and the highest rated position player in the Tigers organization. The right-handed batting Castellanos is only 19 years old and spent last season at Low-A West Michigan. After a slow first month, Castellanos tore up the league with a .312 average, an on base percentage of .376, and an OPS of .803. He hit .332 after the first month of the season. He is expected to move up to Advanced-A Lakeland this season.Statistically speaking: Two numbers jump out from Turner’s first two seasons in the Minors, showing a propensity to throw strikes and to get ground balls. The right-hander has walked just 2.1 per nine innings, and he hasn’t been afraid to pitch to contact, with a ground ball/fly ball ratio of over 1.00.
Scouting report: Turner has quickly become a fairly polished all-around pitcher, impressive given that he won’t turn 21 until May. He can crank his sinking fastball up to the mid-90s, generating many groundouts. Both his curve and changeup aren’t as consistent as his fastball, but they’ve improved vastly since he came out of high school. They both have the chance to be above-average offerings, at least, and he showed more willingness to go to them over the course of 2011. With a good feel for pitching that belies his years, he’s just about ready to help out in the Tigers’ rotation.
Upside potential: How about a very solid No. 2 starter behind Justin Verlander?
Castellanos was drafted with a supplemental pick in the first round of the 2010 draft. The Tigers paid a signing bonus of $3.45 million, a record for any player taken after the first round of the draft. Detroit lost its first pick in the 2010 draft as compensation for signing free agent Jose Valverde, but gained two supplemental first round picks as compensation for losing Fernando Rodney and Brandon Lyon as free agents. That kind of signing bonus may never be seen again after the first round due to the rules of the new CBA.
This is what Mayo said about Castellanos:
Scouting Report: He’s a good natural hitter who should continue to hit for average, especially as he gains better pitch recognition/plate discipline, something he did as he surged in the second half of 2011. He has good raw power and many of last year’s 36 doubles will become home runs as he matures. He played shortstop in high school but has moved over to third, where he’ll be more comfortable long term.
Upside potential: An All-Star-level third baseman who hits for average and power.
Smyly managed to crack the top 100 list for the first time and is the tenth rated lefty pitcher on the list. He was the Tigers’ second-round pick in the 2010 draft. At age 22, Smyly started last season at Lakeland, and moved up to AA Erie.
Smyly posted an impressive ERA of 2.58 in 80 innings of work at Lakeland. After his promotion to Erie, he was even more impressive, with an ERA of 1.18 in 45.2 innings. His K/9 ratio of 9.28 and his WHIP of 1.10, combined with the lowest ERA in the Tigers organization, earned him the distinction of "best pitcher" in the Tigers' minor league system for 2011.
Some excerpts from the scouting report on Smyly:
Scouting Report: Smyly is the prototypical advanced college lefty, one who relies on pitchability more than pure stuff. He has a four-pitch mix -- fastball, cutter, curve and changeup -- all of which are at least Major League average. He throws a lot of strikes and has a good amount of deception, keeping hitters off-balance well. If he can stay healthy -- he has some injury history -- he’s a fast-tracker who should be ready sooner rather than later.
Upside potential: He doesn’t have the ceiling of some prospects, but with his command and polish, he should be ready for the life of a No. 4-type starter soon.
Here is the complete list of MLB.com’s Top 100 prospects for 2012.
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It does not make sense
to project an upside potential of a #4 starter? that could mean anything depending on the team. for example, last year, the tiger’s coke would be #4; this year its porcello. does that mean smyly could be as good a rick or coke?
Maybe its semantics but i prefer labeling upside for pitchers as back end rotation on a playoff team or a 10 win 4.5 era guy. I find #4 to be far too arbitrary and you might as well say nothing at all.
My morning gripe.
I have no problem with it
No. 4 starter does not refer to one’s actual position in the rotation, so much as it refers to a group of pitchers have the same general group of skills.
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 26, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
I figured it was a league average or slightly below league average starter
An OPS+ would be approaching 1.00.
Nice article TDog
BTW, the link at the bottom brings me to an error page.
Make Castellanos a 2B now
If everything works out..Cabby at 3B, Prince at 1st and Vmart at DH..we are going to need a 2B now and in the future. I’m waiting for the news that we signed Cesepedes and E, Jaxson ..Motown brings us the “hits” one after another. Spend some more Mr.I…you are 82…I never did understand why we let Edwin go anyways. He kept us in most games through the 7th. Love to see him as 4-5 starter. Please I don’t want to hear Penny in this equation ever again.
It doesn't really work like that
Castellanos doesn’t have the body type or athleticism of a 2nd baseman. If he did, he would still be playing shortstop.
by Rob Rogacki on Jan 26, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But, but
Peralta and Raburn do have the body types or athleticism?
/scratching head
/now thinking about Fielder and Cabrera’s body types at the corners
I agree with you though. We need to be strong defensively up the middle if we want Cabrera at 3B to work long-term.
If Cabrera sticks at 3B long-term and is re-signed after 2015
I think we see Castellanos in the outfield, which I am fine with.
Castellanos might not have the range for 3B
And you want to make him a 2B why? You lose out on his arm strength and keep the range.
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by David Tokarz on Jan 26, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting Distribution
Given 30 Major League teams, the top 100 prospects should include an average of 3 players per team.(rounded to a whole). The Tigers placed 3 players, and furthermore placed one very close to the middle in each “Third”. For all the bad press the farm system gets, that looks like a pretty “average” system and much better than I expected.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - Paul Giamatti's father.
there is a very steep dropoff after these three
guys like Brantly, Rondon, Fields, Garcia, etc. are a long ways from producing at the ML level and every team has a bunch of guys like those. Most of them flame out in mediocrity.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
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by David Tokarz on Jan 26, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not forget something
The Tiger’s best talent down on the farm is that they have the ability to build up prospects as ’can’t miss" or "5 tool’. Ex. Miller and Maybin and we stole Cabby for them.probably the biggest heist ever. there is really only one Tiger on roster that was given the can’t miss label..JV…Avila was a pick for his dad..Boesch made his own way. We have been through so many No.1 picks it’s crazy..ex. Matt Anderson etc. The people who do the scouting hit about every one in a hundred picks. Oh sure we have some pitching prospects down there according to the Tigers..none have impressed us so far when at the MLB level. We have NO 2b or C down there. When you scout don’t you scout ALL positions. Why doesn’t Mr.I employ his Red Wing scouts for the Tigers. They find “GEMS” in the later rounds like Lidstrom, Datsuyk, Fransen, Zetterberg. I wish our Tiger scouts were 25% as good.
Miller and Maybin
were widely regarded by scouts everywhere as blue chip prospects, so there wasn’t a whole lot of “build up” necessary. The deal ended up being a heist, but there were many who thought the Tigers gave up too much. You never know with prospects.
David Chadd (I believe) made the Avila pick and he has said time and again Alex was the best player on his board at the time. Maybe he’s lying, but scouts could see that he could hit, the issue was that he had limited experience behind the plate so there was no clear position to play him.
I hope you are joking about employing Red Wings scouts for the Tigers. Those guys found gems in late rounds because hockey is different than baseball. In the NHL, the top drafted players often play their rookie season with little or no time in the minors to develop. Other good prospects stay in the minors because they do need some time to develop size/strength, or the pro team is loaded with veteran guys and there’s no place to play the kid. Dastyuk and Zetterberg were found in late rounds because there’s a worldwide draft and pretty much anyone is available. Those guys just weren’t that widely scouted because so few teams knew about them.
99.9% of drafted baseball players require a lot of development time before they are ML-ready, which means scouts have to project what kind of abilities, skills, physical traits, and injury likelihood a player will have 3-4 years down the road. It’s incredibly difficult, and team do find gems of their own in later rounds, the Tigers included (Avila was a 5th round pick). I think the Tigers scouts do a pretty good job, and comparing them to Wings’ scouts makes no sense.
why yes, I'm slightly drunk at the moment
by Mark in Chicago on Jan 26, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And the Maybin story isn't done yet
He’s still young and had a pretty good year last season. I expect he’ll see a few all-star games before he’s done.
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