Tigers not looking to trade Jacob Turner, Dombrowski tells News
News has been so thin this offseason and you know I'm only good for an infuriating rant once a week, so I'm glad that Lynn Henning of the Detroit news spoke to Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski for a few nice tidbits to mention today.
"We are not looking to trade Jacob Turner," Dombrowski said. "We love the guy. But I have received calls from clubs wondering if we would be interested in certain players because they have interest in our players. And he is a guy they ask about immediately because he is held in such high esteem.
"Do we listen to anybody?" Dombrowski asked, rhetorically. "Yes. But we are not looking to trade Jacob Turner by any means."
Dombrowski shot down most of the rumors as the Tigers being used as bargaining chips, although he did admit to brief discussions over Gio Gonzalez. He also declined discuss Garza either way.
Like I've said in the past and in our comment section, I've never shied away from trading prospects for established major league players, but you've got to treat each prospect as an individual. I think Turner still needs work -- which is why I am in favor of signing a starter on a one- or two-year deal until Turner develops further -- but this kid sure looks like a keeper to me. Unless he's part of a package that gets you an A-Lister, I don't want to see him go.
Dombrowski told Henning his game plan remains the same. That is, he's happy with the options he already has for starting pitcher. In addition to Turner, prospects Drew Smyly and Casey Crosby have the potential to break through during spring training, with Adam Wilk and Duane Below having the ability to hold down the spot in the interim.
The fact is -- as boring as it might be for any 12 months a year Tigers fan or blogger -- Detroit doesn't really have to do much more this offseason. The Tigers are just fine the way they are -- for now. They enter the season as favorites to win the division after coming off a 95-win season. The team may have a true talent level that is closer to the high-80s, and they might have a hole or two I'd like to see fixed, but no team is a finished product in February. You've got months to see what players surprise you -- good or bad -- and to adjust your roster as necessary during the course of the season. And the players who might be available on the trade market in July may be untouchable right now. So my take is, let's just wait and see right now.
So you know what? Keep Turner. Keep Nick Castellanos. Keep the rest of them, too. Unless a deal blows you away, anyway. The Tigers may not look like a World Series team today, but if the roster is unchanged on Aug. 1 I'll eat my sneakers.*
*In case this somehow actually happened, I expect good sneaker recipes from you guys, thanks.
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I think this is spectacular news.
by SweetLouDoubleU on Jan 4, 2012 12:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Capitalized words to indicate shouting - no
Hastily misspelled words or names – No
Railing against the stupidity of Henning and/or DD – No
Emphasize a point by threatening to eat apparel/accessories – Yes.
But overall, I don’t think this scores enough angry points to qualify as a rant.
yesterday was my weekly rant
today is just mild mannered repeating
by Kurt Mensching on Jan 4, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with what DD is doing
Trade value on Turner value and other should rise especially if any of them blows away AAA. Being the #6 prospect and under team control for a few years, you would be a fool to trade him. If he is traded it better be for a star. I expect Tigers to do some action at the tradeline if the platoon doesn’t work out or if DY doesn’t hit 300. Love to have Garza if I could get for Ward and Oliver and a prospect in the lower levels.
Ward Cleaver?
There’s no way we should trade Ward Cleaver, if he is indeed in the system.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I think ur bn a little hard on the Beaver...
Not sure if D2 was payin attention during the series w/ Texas, but they were almost completely outmatched, 2 say the roster is set has 2 make me think he’s a bit delusional. I’m not sayin they should seriously entertain tradin prospects 4 mediocre players, but there were very odvious holes that need repairing, so I hope this kinda like where next thing u know he’s pickin up a V_Mart type guy, like last year & not the “let’s wait & see” attitude regarding Coke, as a starter, & Penny, cuz we waited….& waited &…waited….& saw nothing….
We were outmatched during the Texas series because everyone was tired and hurt
I seem to remember us going 6-3 against them during the season.
Both were right, Tigers also got out mangered
Ryan moving Ogando to the pen and shortening the game was an excellent move. Did backfire in WS. I lke what the Rangers did in the off season.
I know that, I was hoping it was Ryan decision
Rangers can keep Jack in the Box as a manager.
this might help
Werner Herzog eats his shoe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd6rUo7Htso
the tigers team as it stands today will be the team to lift the world series trophy (s/)
Life can now get back to normal....
…now that the Turner watch is over. Still feel the Tigers could find a 5th among the available FAs out there if needed immediately or wait until mid season to deal like we did with Fister. Think we have young talent available for a 5th. Turner Watch will be replaced by Spring Training Watch very soon.
3B is the position of need
One of 5 or 6 kids will plug the 5 hole in the rotation. We’ll need a fast car constantly idling outside COPA ready to make a run down to Toledo if need be … but they’ll do.
The 2B platoon will hit enough to overcome Raburns fielding.
Delmon will most likely put in an MLB average season. Good enough.
The 7th inning is covered with Dotel and Coke.
It’s third base. It is the bottomless pit of suck. If it was a President, they’d call it Suckraham Lincoln. If our third base platoon owned a restaurant, it’d be called “Wolfgang Suck.” If they were the first pick in the NFL draft, they’d be Andrew Suck. George Castanza’s porn name for our third base situation would be “Suck Naked.” The Marx Brothers made a movie(naturally, a comedy)about our third base platoon … it’s called “Suck Soup.” Both guys in our third base platoon used to hang out with Robin Hood. He called ’em “Friar Suck.”
You get the idea.
Hold on to Turner. Hold on to Castellanos. If you must. But do something about the suck-a-thon we got going at third base DD … please.
Justin can now let the fungus grow back on his shower shoes.
Who?
It’s rough right now…not that many teams are punting their seasons yet. San Diego is starting to look like they actually want to contend in that sucky division, so they might not be selling Headley just yet.
I think DD looks around and sees suckage everywhere on the 3B market and has decided to just drift through until the trade deadline and see what develops. I’m still not worried about losing the division with the suckage at 3B, but I hope that somehow it is remedied by the ALDS (and if it’s not, Kurt may be eating sneaker.)
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
what is there that could be done right now?
other than Aramis Ramirez what FA would have been an upgrade (and he wasn’t that great of an option in my opinion). The Latos and Gonzales trades have made the market in the seller’s favor. Like it was stated, most of the team that won 90+ games is returning. The Tigers should sit back see what the have, wait for the selling teams to back down on their demands and go from there.
"I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food" - Ron Swanson
by rock n rye on Jan 4, 2012 2:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't know what to do about it. That's why we pay DD, no?
Problem is, not only is our third base situation a bottomless pit of suck, there doesn’t seem to be any options in case they suck worse than we think they might(is that even possible?)
What happens if both Kelly and Inge are hitting .175 at the end of May with 1 dinger and 100 K’s between them? Worth? Santiago, and give 2B to Raburn on a dilay basis?(shudder)
Mark Twain wrote a book about these guys. Yup, you guessed it … Suckleberry Finn.
Do something, DD.
Justin can now let the fungus grow back on his shower shoes.
We pay DD to know better about this roster than we do
If he thinks we’re good, I’ll pray like hell that he’s right.
The Angels have a boatload @ 3rd...
Callaspo, Itzuris, Kendrick & Aybar battling for 3 starting infield spots. I would gladly bat any one of ‘em 1st or 2nd in the Tiger lineup while manning the hot corner. By the way, they all will make between 2 to 3.3 million next year. They also have Mark Trumbo making the league minimum, but i don’t know if he can play 3rd or not.
Good ideas
I agree that there’s certainly a surplus of value there, but what would you want if you were LAA? Their lineup is pretty good, top to bottom, except for catcher. Pujols at 1B, the four guys you mentioned in the IF, Hunter, Wells, and Bourjos in the OF. Morales and Trumbo with big bats for DH. Abreu not really needed. And one of the best prospects in baseball, Mike Trout, chomping for some OF time if you don’t like the adequate Bourjos. (Wells is probably the least productive of the OF bunch, but you don’t bench money like that.)
Your rotation is Weaver, Haren, Wilson, and Santana.
If I’m an Angels fan, here’s what I want –
1 – A reliable #5 starter
2 – A catcher that can hit better than the crap I currently have
3 – Some bullpen help for the 6th – 8th innings
As a LAA fan, I want to win the division and head into the playoffs. With this team, I expect to make the playoffs. I’d rather have a good UT/Insurance guy for the infield than some prospect(s) from the Tigers organization. If we’re willing to get them a decent #5 starter, we might be able to talk, but we don’t even have our own #5 spot figured out. We don’t have a MLB-ready catcher blocked by Avila. We don’t have bullpen surplus.
The Tigers don’t match up terribly well as trade partners. LAA has very few needs outside of C and I don’t think they’re in trade mode. I think they’re in win mode and they’re going to keep all of those pieces unless they can fix catcher or #5 SP with high confidence.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by momotigers on Jan 4, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Would Pauley, Coke or Schlereth be of any interest to the Halos
And would Dombrowski move any of his middle relievers in order to shore up the 3rd base issue? It’s kinda like robbing Peter to pay Paul if you weaken the pen in order to strengthen 3rd, but imo a starting infielder has more opportunities to make the team better than a middle reliever. Pauley had a nice stat line with the Mariners, but JL didnt seem to like him much so maybe he could be part of a package. Coke is a viable trading chip and even Schlereth has value since he is a lefty and still young. All this being said, we may still need a 3rd team to be involved with any dealings with the Angels, but a guy can dream, can’t he?
I'd hope we wouldn't trade Coke
I really like him as a left-handed option on out there in the pen.
As far as Schlereth… trade him for anything you can get in return, which wouldn’t be much.
No longer the Founder, President and CEO of the Ryan Raburn Fan Club
That "we'll just plug anybody into the five hole in the rotation" idea
Got us a 4-16 record last season from those starters in 33 starts (1-7 in 19 starts if you don’t count Phil Coke). There’s a reason that JV stopped so many losing streaks.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
Oops, bad stats
Meant 4-16 in 23 starts, 1-7 in nine starts without Coke.
"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker
I'm on board with adding a starter
a Oswalt, Bedard, or Malholm can buy the Tigers time until the kids are ready. I’m just getting weary of reading the “we need a 2b, 3b, LF, leadoff hitter, etc…” droning, when the pickings are slim.
"I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food" - Ron Swanson
by rock n rye on Jan 4, 2012 3:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think the team is fine, as is
Except for the Looney Tunes situation at 3B. Might as well call them Daffy Suck.
Justin can now let the fungus grow back on his shower shoes.
by Singledigit on Jan 4, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brad Penny isn't a bad dude though.
I actually played him in words with friends before the season started, and talked to him a little. Pretty cool dude. Sucky pitcher though.
What's the exact recipe for "Suck Soup"?
Need it for Sneaker Feast.
Throw in 75% of an Inge, and 25% of a Kelly into 3 quarts of boiling water
Moderately salt, so they don’t stick to the pan.
When fully cooked, they both go well with a heaping bowl of Special K.
Justin can now let the fungus grow back on his shower shoes.
by Singledigit on Jan 4, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That much Inge would make the soup suck
by Keith-Allen on Jan 4, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That seems like the point of the soup, though.
by frisbeepilot on Jan 4, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Throw in one David Purcey and one Brad Thomas.
That’s double suck casserole.
I have a grand idea: let's win a game.
If Inge Bats Against Lefties, & Kelly Bats Against Righties?
Inge at 75% & Kelly at 25% is way off. They will face more Right Handed Pitchers in a game than Left, I think.
by TigersFan1957 on Jan 4, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Sneaker Recipe
Although hard to “eat”
Green Sneaker recipe
1 oz Smirnoff® vodka
1/2 oz melon liqueur
1/2 oz Cointreau® orange liqueur
1 splash cream
orange juice
Sneaker Recipe
1 Sneaker
1 lb Bacon
Wrap bacon around sneaker. Bake at 350F for 30min or until bacon smells yummy. If you can still taste the sneaker, add more bacon.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by momotigers on Jan 4, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
My recipe is almost the same
but I add chocolate sauce to it. Otherwise it’s too dry.
Bacon grease?
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
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Contributor, Bless You Boys
I think my mom and dad finally got BYB accounts
Two greenies in the same thread…I don’t know about the Tigers, but I’m having a helluva off-season!
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
You said bacon
That means you win.
"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz
"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching
Contributor, Bless You Boys
A traditional recipe . . .
1 whole camel , medium size
1 whole lamb , large size
20 whole chicken , medium size
i sneaaker, size optional
60 eggs
12 kg rice
2 kg pine nuts
2 kg almonds
1 kg pistachio nut
110 gallons water
5 lbs black pepper
salt
Directions:
1)Skin, trim and clean camel, lamb, chicken and sneaker.2)Boil until tender.3)Cook rice until fluffy.4)Fry nuts until brown and mix with rice.5)Hard boil eggs and peel.6)Stuff cooked chickens & sneaker with hard boiled eggs and rice.7)Stuff the cooked lamb with stuffed chickens & sneaker.8)Add more rice.9)Stuff the camel with the stuffed lamb and add rest of rice.10)Broil over large charcoal pit until brown.11)Spread any remaining rice on large tray and place camel on top of rice.12)Decorate with boiled eggs and nuts.13)Serves a friendly crowd of 80-100.
What kind of camel?
A one hump (dromedary) or two hump camel (bactrian) ?
Use a 2-humper only . . .
. . . if you are eating both sneakers.
by rea on Jan 4, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
also, couldn't agree more with this
The fact is — as boring as it might be for any 12 months a year Tigers fan or blogger — Detroit doesn’t really have to do much more this offseason. The Tigers are just fine the way they are — for now
No longer the Founder, President and CEO of the Ryan Raburn Fan Club
Very true
Things look… well, they don’t look perfect, what team does? But at this point, if we’re arguing over 5th starters and a platoon situation or two, I think we’re doing juuuuuuuust fine.
That being said… you all know as well as I do that on March 30 someone could come down with an injury which changes the whole complexion of the ball club. It’s happened before, it may well happen again. So, to talk about having the team “set” in early January might be a bit folly.
Six-ish weeks until pitchers-and-catchers, folks! :)
41 more days, to be exact
Not that I’m counting or anything. I mean, you’d have to be some kind if weirdo to be watching the clock till pitchers and catchers report.
Tired of generic music??? Exterminate All Rational Thought is here to help!
by Siggzilla on Jan 4, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Truth be told...
…I was gonna count, but I was lazy and estimated it. Thanks for doing the leg-work!
rec'd
for doing the math. 41 days… can’t come soon enough.
No longer the Founder, President and CEO of the Ryan Raburn Fan Club
I did the math 4 weeks ago
All I had to do was look at my calendar. I’ve had it posted since I got my ‘2012 doomsday’ calendar. The first thing I did with it was mark the 14th ad start counting backwards….
Tired of generic music??? Exterminate All Rational Thought is here to help!
Our 3B situation isn't a "platoon"
It can only be described as a suck to the 8th dimension.
You need 3-D glasses to see how bad it sucks. It’s suckiness is so blinding … ya know how if you look at the sun and the close your eyes, you still see the sun? That same retina-burning effect will take hold this season due to the suckdom that is the Detroit Tigers third base “platoon.”
Close your eyes, you’ll see Inge/Kelly … burned into your retinas.
Tiger fans will take to wearing their muck boots when watching our third basemen hit, and by May 1st take to calling them “Suck Boots.”
Justin can now let the fungus grow back on his shower shoes.
Actually, it may not be as sucky as you think
Inge doesn’t suck that bad against lefties. Kelly doesn’t suck that bad against righties.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
funny idea here...
Since 99% of us don’t like 3rd base the way it is, let’s move Miggy back over there and sign Prince Fielder. Now I know this will never happen, but wasn’t that going to happen if the Tigers made it to the WS, only with V-Mart at first. Just think of the fear in the line-up with Prince on board. Would we really need a veteran 5th starter? The runs being put up would be enough on most nights.
you don't wanna see Miggy play 3rd every night
I can promise you that. I know you were joking, but I’ve seen it mentioned a few times around here and those people weren’t joking. He’s turned himself into a good 1B and that’s where he’ll stay
No longer the Founder, President and CEO of the Ryan Raburn Fan Club
I think I need to point out that DD did not say "we are for sure keeping Turner."
I thought that was clear from the context, but maybe it’s not. There’s a difference between not shopping a player and not trading him.
Agreed completely
With our front four locked up through 2014 and some other guys on the verge, Turner is pretty expendable if we can meet our needs. Unfortunately most of the trade talk is about SP; I don’t favor trading Turner for SP.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

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