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BYB writing opportunity available!

Bumped. Get your submissions in by tonight if you're interested! --Kurt

Links posts are valuable. They're also kind of time consuming to do right. I used to do them a few times a week but more and more time that I could spend doing a better job in other areas of the blog was being taken up. So I just kind of stopped doing links posts altogether. Fortunately we've got some people doing FanShots on a regular basis sharing links. I'd really love to see that expanded into full posts again: I just don't want to do them myself!

If you're the kind of person who likes to read a bunch of stories and share with others, and who can commit to doing a few a week, we'd really like to have you as a front-page author. It is volunteer work, but at least you're going to have access to more eyeballs than you would at almost any other location, Tigers-wise. And those eyeballs range from fans to national media to front office and players. It's a good way to make a name for yourself and hopefully open up some doors down the road. It's a cool gig.

If you're interested, I'd like you to send a sample post to BYBTigers@gmail.com. What I'm looking for is 2-fold: A writer who fits into the tone of posts we already do here while maintaining an individual voice, and 2) Someone who finds links off the beaten path. Anyone can round up what the Freep, News, MLB.com and MLive are doing. I'd like to find someone who travels different paths who can bring what they find interesting back to the rest of us.

Serious inquiries only, please. If this can't be done right and on a predictable schedule, it's better not to do it at all.

If you have any questions, fire them at me in this post or to the e-mail address above.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of the Bless You Boys writing staff.

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What a scam

Just say no to working for free. Sites like this exist and are profitable because they drive the competition out of business by using free labor. Should be ashamed.

If you want someone to work for you, pay them. This whole idea of “getting your name out there” is the same line they all use, and it’s garbage.

by mmg60020 on Feb 1, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm

Don’t like the principles behind the site then don’t visit it, I am sure there are plenty of other sites that don’t have volunteer writers that you can enjoy.

by wilsonm24 on Feb 1, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

My kingdom for a edit button sometimes...

I am sure all the non-paid interns at the major media outlets wonder where you get the idea that “sites like this” are the only ones using free labor.

by wilsonm24 on Feb 1, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I really dont think BYB is a profit machine

The reason this community works is because of the content. You can get content one of two ways. One, you could pay top dollar for it. Two, you could staff it with writers you genuinely love the Tigers and everything about the organization. Personally I love sites like this built from fans and not egotistical sports writers that think so highly of themselves while talking down to the rest of us “normals”.

The job doesnt pay enough for you? Find something else to do with your time.

by IowaLion on Feb 1, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

If you want to support writers, you can visit ESPN and pay 30 bucks for access.

"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz

"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching

by David Tokarz on Feb 1, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said, IowaLion!

I'm owner/editor of The Wayne Fontes Experience a deputy editor at Bless You Boys, host the Bless You Boys Podcast and co-host The Knee Jerks podcast.

by BigAl on Feb 1, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

people also don't get paid for their comments

but they seem happy share hundreds or thousands of them.

I’d love to have a big budget here and shower money on all sorts of people. Realistically, it’s just not going to happen. Realistically, most people who start and run their own blog don’t see a dime for their work and end up writing for a couple of dozen people.

For folks who feel the itch to share their opinions when it comes to baseball and the Tigers and have a lot of other people see them, you’re not going to top BYB. That’s all we can realistically offer.

by Kurt Mensching on Feb 1, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Because writing for a site with this kind of traffic is a hell of a resume line.

"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz

"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching

by David Tokarz on Feb 1, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI: Most bloggers who do make money (and it's not many) earn slave wages

That includes myself and the time I spend writing/updating my own site, TWFE. And I know for a fact the same goes for Kurt here at BYB.

I write online and produce podcasts because it’s fun and I have something to say, not because I want to get paid.

I started, like most other bloggers, just for the enjoyment of it. If a little cash, exposure, and other opportunities come along, great. But I just consider it nothing more than found money…usually enough to buy good beer.

I'm owner/editor of The Wayne Fontes Experience a deputy editor at Bless You Boys, host the Bless You Boys Podcast and co-host The Knee Jerks podcast.

by BigAl on Feb 1, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Me? I just like to see my name in print and I’m bored when there is no baseball to write about.

"King of Minutiae"

by Tigerdog1 on Feb 1, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I sold my first piece of writing 21 years ago

And I made a living as a reporter for many years. I still put out probably 2-3,000 words a week for my current job. I like getting paid to write things and I’ve managed to make a career out of it. I support paying other people who do creative work, whether writers or otherwise.

That being said, I’ve been happy to contribute articles to BYB for free and if I had anything near the time it’d take to do these posts, I’d love to take it on. All Kurt’s doing is giving somebody a platform for blogging that they might otherwise do elsewhere.

"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker

by johnmoz on Feb 1, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

we can further note

that the getting your foot in thing really does pay off. When I was awarded with the editor position for the MSP Tigers Annual — an opportunity this site helped me get — the first people I asked on board were the ones associated with BYB. They were all paid at pretty good rates for their stories, and the Tigers Annual was easily found on store shelves statewide and surprisingly found on quite a few magazine racks nationwide, too.

by Kurt Mensching on Feb 1, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Which reminds me...

will there be another Tigers Annual this year? Or is it really a Tigers Biennial?

"Some guy told me I should walk with the Lord. I'd rather walk with the bases loaded" Ken Singleton

by NCDee on Feb 1, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately

maple street press tried to expand too fast, found not every team’s annual sold as well, and went bankrupt.

Hopefully we’ll find something next year. Might self publish but didn’t have enough lead time to do that up to standards this spring.

by Kurt Mensching on Feb 1, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Just ask Uncle Ian

"Virtually all tactical ploys—the sacrifice bunt, the stolen base, the hit-and-run—operate on average to reduce run scoring." -- Eric Walker

by johnmoz on Feb 2, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I know a number of bloggers . . .

. . . who started as a hobby and ended up making money at it—guys like Matt Yglesias, Ezra Klein, Kevin Drum and Duncan Black.

Of course, that was back in the pioneer days . . .

by rea on Feb 1, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

As David said...

writing for this place looks good on a resume. If I had the time to do this I’d offer myself in a heart beat. Unfortunately I could only ever be an occasional contributor, so Fanposts help fill my need to write when I have the time.

by madpoopz on Feb 1, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

If I wasn’t already loaded down with as much stuff as I do in my down time I’d actually help out beyond being the secret police.

…crap, I’ve said too much.

by 13194013 on Feb 2, 2012 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You signed up for an account just to say this?

What’s the point?

"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy

I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.

by jhitts08 on Feb 1, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell?

It isn’t work. It’s a hobby.

This is a website of FANS. This is where we gather to trade ideas, follow the team we love, and banter with other intelligent folks. Writing here, whether as a comment or a longer piece, is what we’re doing for love of the game. Oh yeah — just went Full Costner.

Anyway, treating this as a job is like treating your tumblr account as a job. I might post stuff all day. It might be interesting. It might stimulate conversation…but it sure as hell isn’t my JOB.

by Thorpac on Feb 3, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Occupy BYB!

"Some guy told me I should walk with the Lord. I'd rather walk with the bases loaded" Ken Singleton

by NCDee on Feb 1, 2012 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Kurt is the 1%!

That is, part of the 1% of awesome baseball bloggers.

Seriously, I love this site and I don’t know what I’d do without it as far as Tigers news/interaction goes.

"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy

I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.

by jhitts08 on Feb 1, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

you're running a little late

the inmates took over years ago

Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.

by murrajo on Feb 5, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Does the job come with a press pass

so that I can go into the Tigers locker room during spring training? If so I am all in!

by wilsonm24 on Feb 1, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

since a few people have asked, here are what links post typically look like

http://www.blessyouboys.com/section/morning-lede

Here’s a different version, by friend of mine and former BYB editor Ian Casselberry:

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2012/01/detroit_tigers_links_how_do_yo.html

What I am looking for in asking for a sample is to see how you personally see yourself using the space.

by Kurt Mensching on Feb 1, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Question

I am interested in this. Do all links have to be Tiger-related? I’ve seen some sites that do this daily and include links to their own team as well as general baseball-related links.

I’m just curious because I read a lot (a LOT) of baseball-related material that isn’t just Tigers-related. Could be interesting.

"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy

I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.

by jhitts08 on Feb 1, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

no

could be interesting MLB stories, stories that impact AL rivals, whatever. as long as it’s something your average BYB might like to know about

by Kurt Mensching on Feb 1, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

man, that sounds like an awesome opportunity

Kurt… exactly how predictable of a schedule are you looking for? Every day? A few times a week?

I might send a sample your way if I think I’d have the time to contribute properly.

Did we really just sign Prince Fielder? Holllllllllly sh*t.

by tigers22 on Feb 1, 2012 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

One question

Does this require finding a myriad of different stories and providing links, or can it also mean writing one story, and providing links to the data you found?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -Rogers Hornsby

by InLeylandWeTrust on Feb 1, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

this is the story format I'm looking to fill

http://www.blessyouboys.com/section/morning-lede

Basically finding interesting stories from around the web and sharing them with a sentence (or a few sentences) with readers.

by Kurt Mensching on Feb 1, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -Rogers Hornsby

by InLeylandWeTrust on Feb 1, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Aww..

I was hoping you wanted a bi-weekly column discussing the merits of the saltless ballpark pretzel.

I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet

SE Michigan Sports

by YakAttack on Feb 1, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Cup of Cheese

Yeah… Cheese doesn’t come in a cup.

by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 6, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz

"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching

by David Tokarz on Feb 6, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, you can do that?

—bloggers everywhere.

www.mgoblog.com

by Misopogon on Feb 1, 2012 6:25 PM EST reply actions  

I was intrigued for a moment

But that was before I realized that probably 80% of the off-site Tigers content I read comes from BYB link posts in the first place.

by lesmanalim on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the opportunity

Unfortunately, I work Monday-Friday as a small town reporter— couple that with a 2 year old child, and college classes on the weekend, and I am booked as is. I thought I’d have time to guest-write articles for Yahoo! for pay on weekends, but I haven’t even had time for that…

I do look forward to spending too much of my free time on this site though.

Jesus don't love me, no one's ever carried my load. I'm too young to feel this old. - Caleb Followill

by Nich on Feb 2, 2012 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Hey

I spend all my free time on this site. So don’t feel bad.

"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz

"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching

by David Tokarz on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Access to an edit button for posts is a perk that must be worth

tens of cents.

3 BF was one of my favorite Detroit Tigers seasons- right until the end.

by HighOPS on Feb 3, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

We still can't edit comments

But if we’re sneaky, we can delete screw ups.

by Rob Rogacki on Feb 3, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Which I do all the time

"You, on the other hand, make Eeyore look like Rainbow Brite." -johnmoz

"I think of you more as the blue book style essay of sports journalism."-Kurt Mensching

by David Tokarz on Feb 3, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

We can?

I don’t know. I’ve never screwed up. :)

"King of Minutiae"

by Tigerdog1 on Feb 3, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Skyrim

The other guys in the Editorial Dept. with me rave about Skyrim, but I’m playing more DC Universe and Killzone 3 right now.

Jesus don't love me, no one's ever carried my load. I'm too young to feel this old. - Caleb Followill

by Nich on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

outing myself as a fellow nerd

I could see myself playing skyrim for months and months because it’s so huge and deep and there are seemingly infinite ways to develop characters that I feel like starting another game just to play with more ways

by Kurt Mensching on Feb 7, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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